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Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10

Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Mark Haney <mhaney ercbroadband org> wrote:
Tom Horsley wrote:
On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:40:07 -0500
Mark Haney wrote:

If I get one that makes sense, then I might shut up
about this, otherwise, to me NM is just re-inventing the wheel to no
It isn't merely reinventing the wheel, it is replacing the wheel with
some utterly incompatible object that sometimes serves a wheel-like
function while not actually working with anything that previously
used wheels without extensive mods to all the former users of wheels.
And, while, they were at it, they also provide absolutely no
documentation about how to use the new wheel-like functionality
then claim anyone who can't get it to work is just a whiner.

No kidding.  Let me give just one more example. I installed F10 on
another laptop (mine).  It's a Compaq Dual core AMD X2 with 8GB RAM.  A
fresh install.  I booted into it after the install (and setting up my
network info (wired).  Logged in as myself.

If you believe that this is something common, you really have no
respect for the Fedora developers. I've installed Fedora 9/10 on
several different machines now, and I have never needed to do more
than plug in an ethernet cable to get wired working.

So please have more respect for the Fedora developers and
NetworkManager developers on this public forum. These guys have
provided me with too much good software for me to standby have people
needlessly disrespect their work.

I think the issue comes when you are not using DHCP as many do. If over the years, you have used setup scripts the NM default approach is a problem.

On this fresh install I had to setup my network info in NM at first. Then I moved to network services and turned off NM. A two step approach to get back to the Old way.

As for network info, I found I had to edit the /etc/sysconfig/networking manually because system-config-network kept corrupting the settings. I need to do some testing and file a bug report.

Robin Laing

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