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Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Robin Laing <Robin Laing drdc-rddc gc ca> wrote:
> Arthur Pemberton wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Mark Haney <mhaney ercbroadband org>
>> wrote:
>>> Tom Horsley wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:40:07 -0500
>>>> Mark Haney wrote:
>>>>> If I get one that makes sense, then I might shut up
>>>>> about this, otherwise, to me NM is just re-inventing the wheel to no
>>>>> purpose.
>>>> It isn't merely reinventing the wheel, it is replacing the wheel with
>>>> some utterly incompatible object that sometimes serves a wheel-like
>>>> function while not actually working with anything that previously
>>>> used wheels without extensive mods to all the former users of wheels.
>>>> And, while, they were at it, they also provide absolutely no
>>>> documentation about how to use the new wheel-like functionality
>>>> then claim anyone who can't get it to work is just a whiner.
>>> No kidding.  Let me give just one more example. I installed F10 on
>>> another laptop (mine).  It's a Compaq Dual core AMD X2 with 8GB RAM.  A
>>> fresh install.  I booted into it after the install (and setting up my
>>> network info (wired).  Logged in as myself.
>> If you believe that this is something common, you really have no
>> respect for the Fedora developers. I've installed Fedora 9/10 on
>> several different machines now, and I have never needed to do more
>> than plug in an ethernet cable to get wired working.
>> So please have more respect for the Fedora developers and
>> NetworkManager developers on this public forum. These guys have
>> provided me with too much good software for me to standby have people
>> needlessly disrespect their work.
> I think the issue comes when you are not using DHCP as many do.  If over the
> years, you have used setup scripts the NM default approach is a problem.
> On this fresh install I had to setup my network info in NM at first. Then I
> moved to network services and turned off NM.  A two step approach to get
> back to the Old way.
> As for network info, I found I had to edit the /etc/sysconfig/networking
> manually because system-config-network kept corrupting the settings.  I need
> to do some testing and file a bug report.

On my desktop, I have DHCP available, but i use a static IP.

All I did was use sytem-config-network, and check 'start on boot' and
uncheck 'controlled by NM'. Does this not work for you guys?

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