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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Will btfrs file system obsolete LVM? (Rahul Sundaram)
  2. Re: Ideal Swap Partition Size (Aaron Konstam)
  3. Samba problem (Paul Smith)
  4. Re: ATT's DSL Lite for Linux (g)
  5. Re: Ideal Swap Partition Size (Patrick O'Callaghan)
  6. Re: gdm - displaying of information/ F10 (Mail Lists)
  7. Routing problem - was FC9 Linux gateways, VPN working,    IP
     forwarding isn't (Gary Stainburn)
  8. Re: F10+ Burn multiple discs concurrent from iso?
     (Mikkel L. Ellertson)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:28:08 +0530
From: Rahul Sundaram <sundaram fedoraproject org>
Subject: Re: Will btfrs file system obsolete LVM?
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
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Leslie Satenstein wrote:
> My question is in the subject line.
>

Btrfs will take more time to mature  (maybe a couple more releases
atleast) but essentially, yes.

Btrfs features are listed in

http://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page

Rahul



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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:03:28 -0600
From: Aaron Konstam <akonstam sbcglobal net>
Subject: Re: Ideal Swap Partition Size
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
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On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 15:42 -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> Aaron Konstam wrote:
> >
> > This is explained in nearly all textbooks on Computer Architecture. So
> > the question remains, where is the address space in Linux.
>
> Patrick isn't the only one confused by your question.  I can't make
> heads or tails of it.  Are you asking where the mapping between the
> virtual address space and physical memory is done, or what?
>
No I am asking where the virtual address space resides of the machine.
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:05:22 +0000
From: Paul Smith <phhs80 gmail com>
Subject: Samba problem
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
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Dear All,

I could access to a directory in my F10 partition from a VMware
virtual machine (MS Windows2000) through Samba, but not now. This is
very strange because I have not changed any samba settings. Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,

Paul



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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:31:24 +0000
From: g <geleem bellsouth net>
Subject: Re: ATT's DSL Lite for Linux
To: fedora-list <fedora-list redhat com>
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Tim wrote:

> A Dlink DIR-300.  I'm none-too-impressed with it, for more than just
> that reason.

it is nice to 'be true to your native country', but some times a simple
search on google will help you make up your mind.

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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 11:43:42 -0430
From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan gmail com>
Subject: Re: Ideal Swap Partition Size
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On Sat, 2009-01-24 at 09:03 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 15:42 -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> > Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > >
> > > This is explained in nearly all textbooks on Computer Architecture. So
> > > the question remains, where is the address space in Linux.
> >
> > Patrick isn't the only one confused by your question.  I can't make
> > heads or tails of it.  Are you asking where the mapping between the
> > virtual address space and physical memory is done, or what?
> >
> No I am asking where the virtual address space resides of the machine.

No, sorry, nothing coming through. The question as phrased makes no
sense.

If you're asking where does a given address in the virtual address space
map to, it depends on whether the corresponding page of the process
address space is currently in RAM, or on backing store (disk or
whatever), or nowhere because it hasn't been allocated, but the question
"where is the address space" has no meaning.

Furthermore, the *machine* as such has no "virtual address space".

poc



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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 11:29:53 -0500
From: Mail Lists <lists sapience com>
Subject: Re: gdm - displaying of information/ F10
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <497B4201 1080500 sapience com>
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On 01/24/2009 09:01 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 22:50 -0500, Mail Lists wrote:
>>  Our policy is to minimize information leakage - we recently switched
>> from kdm/kde to gdm/gnome and I cannot find how to adjust gdm greeter to
>> achieve :
>
> Dear Mr Lists

 I did put my name at the bottom.

>
> Have you considered using kdm with Gnome?

 Yep, as I said in the original post

 ++ I did try kdm but there was some nasty white flash before the blue
 ++ background was loaded as gnome/metacity was started by kdm)

 This was only on one computer where I ran the test, a lenovo laptop
with nvidia graphics. Its a possible workaround for gdm - I am still
wondering how to do it with gdm tho'. We are obviously most concerned
with laptops rather than desktops.

 As an aside, we plan to revisit kde periodically to see if its
usability and configurabilty are maturing back to kde 3.5 type of
levels. Fro the time being we have switched to gnome.

 Thanks for your suggestion

 gene/


>
> poc
>



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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:40:14 +0000
From: Gary Stainburn <gary stainburn ringways co uk>
Subject: Routing problem - was FC9 Linux gateways, VPN working, IP
       forwarding isn't
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <200901241640 15009 gary stainburn ringways co uk>
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On Saturday 24 January 2009 11:19:05 Giany wrote:
> If you say ip_forward is enabled then either there is a routing problem
> or some firewall issue.
>

I've been going round in circles all day and now my head's spinning. I even
got it working once, but don't know how and can't repeat it.

Iptables on all four machines set ACCEPT on INPUT, OUTPUT and FORWARD. IP
forwarding enabled on both gateways.

This only leaves routing.

Both gateways talk to each other.
Client and Server can talk to their local gateway
Local gateway can talk to remote server.
Remote gateway cannot talk to client
Client cannot talk to remote gateway or server
server cannot talk to local gateway or client

Layout

Client  eth0            10.6.1.2/16

               Network 10.6.0.0/16

Local GW        eth0            10.6.1.1/16
               eth1            192.168.1.1/24 (internet connection)
               ppp0    192.168.127.2/32 P-to-P 192.168.127.1

               VPN             ppp-over-ssh

Remote  eth0            10.1.1.115/16
GW              ppp1    192.168.127.1/32 P-to-P 192.168.127.2

               Network 10.1.0.0/16

Server  eth0            10.1.1.104

route tables

Client
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
192.168.128.1   10.6.1.1        255.255.255.255 UGH   0      0        0 eth0
192.168.127.1   10.6.1.1        255.255.255.255 UGH   0      0        0 eth0
10.6.0.0        0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     1      0        0 eth0
0.0.0.0         10.6.1.1        0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0

Local Gateway
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
192.168.127.1   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0 ppp0
192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth1
10.2.0.0        192.168.127.1   255.255.0.0     UG    0      0        0 ppp0
136.0.0.0       192.168.127.1   255.255.0.0     UG    0      0        0 ppp0
10.1.0.0        192.168.127.1   255.255.0.0     UG    0      0        0 ppp0
10.6.0.0        0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0      0        0 eth0
10.5.0.0        192.168.127.1   255.255.0.0     UG    0      0        0 ppp0
172.0.0.0       192.168.127.1   255.255.0.0     UG    0      0        0 ppp0
169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0      0        0 eth1
0.0.0.0         192.168.1.254   0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth1

Remote Gateway
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
192.168.127.2   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0 ppp1
10.2.0.0        10.1.1.1        255.255.0.0     UG    0      0        0 eth0
172.24.0.0      10.1.1.16       255.255.0.0     UG    0      0        0 eth0
10.1.0.0        0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0      0        0 eth0
10.4.0.0        10.1.1.112      255.255.0.0     UG    0      0        0 eth0
10.5.0.0        10.1.1.112      255.255.0.0     UG    0      0        0 eth0
136.9.0.0       10.1.1.16       255.255.0.0     UG    0      0        0 eth0
169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0      0        0 eth0
0.0.0.0         10.1.1.112      0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0

Server
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
192.168.127.2   10.1.1.115      255.255.255.255 UGH   0      0        0 eth0
10.2.0.0        10.1.1.1        255.255.0.0     UG    0      0        0 eth0
172.24.0.0      10.1.1.16       255.255.0.0     UG    0      0        0 eth0
10.1.0.0        0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0      0        0 eth0
10.6.0.0        10.1.1.115      255.255.0.0     UG    0      0        0 eth0
10.4.0.0        10.1.1.112      255.255.0.0     UG    0      0        0 eth0
10.5.0.0        10.1.1.112      255.255.0.0     UG    0      0        0 eth0
136.9.0.0       10.1.1.16       255.255.0.0     UG    0      0        0 eth0
169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0      0        0 eth0
0.0.0.0         10.1.1.112      0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0






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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:45:18 -0600
From: "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <mikkel infinity-ltd com>
Subject: Re: F10+ Burn multiple discs concurrent from iso?
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
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Robin Laing wrote:
> Frank Murphy wrote:
>> Can any of the fedora supplied, GUI Burners,
>> burn multiple copies concurrent.
>> Looking at setting up a PC based Duplicator.
>>
>> Any controller card better than another Fedora POV?
>> May 6 devices Internal.
>>
>> Frank
>>
>
> I think you would be better off using a script and a CLI tool.  It isn't
> that hard.  It may actually work better as each burner, even if
> identical will have different properties and operating characteristics.
>
> But you ask a good question and it will be interesting to see.

I suspect that a SCSI controller, and an external LUN controller
with the drives in it would work better. I would not want the load
of 6 drives burring at the same time on the PC's power supply.
Depending on the burn speed, you might run into data transfer
problems on the PCI bus in any case. You could run external SATA
drives, but the cabling would be a problem and you still have the
PCI bus speed limit.

Mikkel
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for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!

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