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Re: F10 evolution hangs on imap after a few hours



On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 09:35 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 21:21 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> > On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 10:50 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Every so often I come into work to find Thunderbird prompting for my
> > > > Gmail password. When I supply it, I get a message saying
> > > > "imap.googlemail.com is not a valid IMAP4 server." - a thunderbird
> > > > restart cures this.
> > > 
> > > It was fairly clear to me that this is a problem with Gmail and not
> > > Evolution, and now you have effectively confirmed it. The fact that it's
> > > so easy to correct (even if it *is* Gmail's fault) is why I reported it
> > > to the Evo BZ.
> > ----
> > I surely believe that there are some timeout issues occasionally with
> > Gmail and don't dispute what you are suggesting but in the past two
> > days, since I have turned off TLS, Evolution has not hung on my IMAP
> > server. I recognize that it isn't possible to use Gmail/IMAP without SSL
> > but I strongly suspect that some of your problems are rooted in SSL/TLS
> > with Evolution.
> > 
> > I may play around with adding my gmail account to Evolution after I go
> > another day without SSL/TLS in Evolution to see if it hangs but it
> > hasn't hung on me in the last day and half since I turned it off.
> 
> Both my IMAP accounts use SSL, not TLS. That includes Gmail. The only
> hangs are with Gmail, not with the other account. I think we are seeing
> two different problems here. There may well be a TLS problem, but there
> is also a Gmail problem orthogonal to that.
> 
> Gmail is unlike most IMAP servers out there in several respects, due to
> its underlying model being so different (e.g. labels instead of folders,
> the way deletion is managed etc.), but they do try to map their model
> onto what IMAP expects. However the fact that you aren't talking to a
> single server is possibly the key to the problem, i.e. at any given time
> you are talking to one server, but the server can change from one moment
> to the next. What happens if the server changes while an IMAP connection
> is still open, such as is very likely to happen with Evo given that it
> keeps IMAP connections open for long periods of time even when no
> traffic is flowing? I don't think anyone outside of Google really knows,
> and that's where I would look first.
----
I am quite well aware that Gmail uses SSL and not TLS.

I added the Gmail account to my setup to see if it takes down just Gmail
or both.

Craig


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