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Hope I do this right.
I have tried to install Fedora 10 on my system and get white screen
My system,
ATI 4870X2
Intel Core i7
6 Gig DDR3 1600
Dual 750 Gig WD Black Drives
(1) Blu Ray
(2) DVDRW
850 Watt Corsair

I have been trying for about a month now to get any Linux with the NON Free ATI Drivers installed. I want to try out the current KDE 4.2 and to get all the goodies you need 3D enabled of course.
My question is how to get Fedora installed and once installed will the 3 D drivers install?

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Installation of F 11 (Mike Dwiggins)
  2. Re: Installation of F 11 (Frank Murphy (Frankly3D))
  3. internal system error (molly)
  4. Re: Selinux disallows read-only loop mount of a file, but
     only at   boot [SOLVED] (David)
  5. Re: install disk (Michael Shelby)
  6. Re: Software request (Rahul Sundaram)
  7. F10 - pulseaudio not running (Mike Fleetwood)
  8. Where is lsof? (Dave Feustel)
  9. Re: Where is lsof? (Robert P. J. Day)
 10. RE:Where is lsof? (Alan J. Gagne)
 11. RE:Where is lsof? (Robert P. J. Day)
 12. Re: install disk (Kevin J. Cummings)
 13. Re: Where is lsof? (Dave Feustel)
 14. Re: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :( (Bruno Wolff III)
 15. Re: Selinux disallows read-only loop mount of a file, but
     only at boot [SOLVED] (Daniel J Walsh)
 16. Re: nVidia vs. ATI graphics card for fedora (Jack Howarth)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 01:05:55 -0700
From: Mike Dwiggins <mike azdwiggins com>
Subject: Re: Installation of F 11
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using
       Fedora."        <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <49FEA1E3 9070808 azdwiggins com>
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Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote:
> On 04/05/09 08:21, Mike Dwiggins wrote:
>
>> Y'all can keep F 11. Let me know when it maybe works!
>>
>
> F11 hasn't been released yet,
> oh right it was F11-Preview
> "Warning, this is pre-release software",
>
> If the warning didn't show,
> you should file a bug
> http://bugzilla.redhat.com
>
> Frank
>
> Been there done that, just wanted to share the expeience!
>

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 09:09:56 +0100
From: "Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)" <frankly3d gmail com>
Subject: Re: Installation of F 11
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <49FEA2D4 5040706 gmail com>
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On 04/05/09 09:05, Mike Dwiggins wrote:

>> Been there done that, just wanted to share the expeience!
>

Good, but the user-list isn't the best place for the preview,
testing list would probably be the better.
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:52:55 +0200
From: molly <no-reply-gw fcp surfsite org>
Subject: internal system error
To: fedora-list redhat com
Message-ID: <61ca44df71d2ccdf8a567b70b6da07ca fcp surfsite org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Lately I've been getting very frequently (let's say every quarter of an hour) a warning about an internal system error, specifically a Package Manager error. In detail:

Error Type:
Error Value: 'NoneType' object is unsubscriptable
 File : /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/yum/yumBackend.py, line 2316, in
   main()
 File : /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/yum/yumBackend.py, line 2313, in main
   backend.dispatcher(sys.argv[1:])
 File : /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/packagekit/backend.py, line 600, in dispatcher
   self.dispatch_command(args[0], args[1:])
 File : /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/packagekit/backend.py, line 508, in dispatch_command
   self.get_updates(filters)
 File : /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/yum/yumBackend.py, line 1769, in get_updates
   self._check_init()
 File : /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/yum/yumBackend.py, line 1996, in _check_init
   self.yumbase.repos.doSetup()
 File : /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/repos.py, line 71, in doSetup
   self.ayum.plugins.run('postreposetup')
 File : /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py, line 178, in run
   func(conduitcls(self, self.base, conf, **kwargs))
 File : /usr/lib/yum-plugins/rpm-warm-cache.py, line 32, in postreposetup_hook
   cmd = commands[0]
Does anybody know what I should do to fix it?

Thanks in advance,
molly


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 19:19:32 +1000
From: David <bouncingcats gmail com>
Subject: Re: Selinux disallows read-only loop mount of a file, but
       only at         boot [SOLVED]
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
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[david kablamm ~]$ cat
/etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts | grep mount
/etc/rc.d/init.d/autofs --      system_u:object_r:automount_script_exec_t:s0
/bin/mount.*    --      system_u:object_r:mount_exec_t:s0
/bin/umount.*   --      system_u:object_r:mount_exec_t:s0
/sbin/mount.*   --      system_u:object_r:mount_exec_t:s0
/sbin/umount.*  --      system_u:object_r:mount_exec_t:s0
/var/run/autofs.*       system_u:object_r:automount_var_run_t:s0
/var/run/pam_mount(/.*)?        system_u:object_r:pam_var_run_t:s0
/usr/bin/smbmnt --      system_u:object_r:smbmount_exec_t:s0
/bin/fusermount --      system_u:object_r:mount_exec_t:s0
/usr/bin/smbmount       --      system_u:object_r:smbmount_exec_t:s0
/usr/bin/fusermount     --      system_u:object_r:mount_exec_t:s0
/usr/sbin/automount     --      system_u:object_r:automount_exec_t:s0
/usr/sbin/rpc\.mountd   --      system_u:object_r:nfsd_exec_t:s0
/etc/apm/event\.d/autofs        --      system_u:object_r:automount_exec_t:s0

[root kablamm david]# chcon -t mount_exec_t
/HUGE/get/iso/Fedora-09-i386-DVD/Fedora-09-i386-DVD.iso

Appears to be [SOLVED] ... off for a fizzy drink :-)

If I got this wrong, please comment.



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 02:31:35 -0700
From: Michael Shelby <tekaryace gmail com>
Subject: Re: install disk
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID:
       <845a99660905040231n20b922brc35ac256f23ae344 mail gmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I got fedora 11 in easy, i am glad you said something about it. I am playing
around with it now, I needed 64 bit so I could put all my ram to work. It
says it is a preveiw, will I have to reinstall later or can I just upgrade
when the final version comes out. I swear last Q&A and thanks again.
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 16:56:52 +0530
From: Rahul Sundaram <sundaram fedoraproject org>
Subject: Re: Software request
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Cc: Beartooth comcast net
Message-ID: <49FED0FC 3020101 fedoraproject org>
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On 04/29/2009 07:39 PM, Beartooth wrote:
>       Could some kind soul make an rpm and put it into a repository for
> gnome-format? It's at
>
> http://live.gnome.org/gnome-format -- and there are .debs there, but
> no .rpms.

Here, you go

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1335062

I need to put this up for review but you can pick it up meanwhile. Let
me know if you find any issues.

Rahul



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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 13:05:53 +0100
From: Mike Fleetwood <mike fleetwood googlemail com>
Subject: F10 - pulseaudio not running
To: fedora-list redhat com
Message-ID:
       <fc5ef2e00905040505q298a1783sa3d7b2285357b5a mail gmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi,

On my work Fedora 10 desktop (upgraded directly from F8) pulseaudio
doesn't run and I don't know how to fix it.  On my home Fedora 10
desktop (upgraded to F9 then F10) pulseaudio runs OK.  As a workaround
I have run "chmod o+rw /dev/snd/*" to allow Audacious audio player as
non-root user access to ALSA kernel audio devices to be able to play
music.  Help troubleshooting pulseaudio appreciated.

Attempting to start pulseaudio manually ...
[mfleetwo mfleetwo3 ~]$ pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
I: caps.c: Dropping root privileges.
I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
[WARN 24009] polkit-session.c:144:polkit_session_set_uid(): session != NULL
 Not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace
[mfleetwo mfleetwo3 ~]$ echo $?
1
[mfleetwo mfleetwo3 ~]$ ps -ef | fgrep pulseaudio
mfleetwo 24102 22684  0 12:40 pts/0    00:00:00 fgrep pulseaudio

Thanks in advance,
Mike



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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 09:49:06 -0400
From: Dave Feustel <dfeustel mindspring com>
Subject: Where is lsof?
To: fedora-list redhat com
Message-ID: <200905041349 n44Dn6cL009470 mx1 redhat com>

Man lsof produces a man page, but the command itself is not found.
Where is it in F9?

Thanks.



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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 09:51:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday crashcourse ca>
Subject: Re: Where is lsof?
To: dfeustel mindspring com, "Community assistance, encouragement,      and
       advice for using Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID:
       <alpine LFD 2 00 0905040949520 25203 localhost localdomain>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Mon, 4 May 2009, Dave Feustel wrote:

> Man lsof produces a man page, but the command itself is not found.
> Where is it in F9?

 on my system, it's in /usr/sbin/lsof.  i'm guessing you don't have
/usr/sbin as part of your regular search path.  a good way to track
down a command is, if the command also happens to come with the
package of the same name, then list the files in the package:

$ rpm -ql lsof
/usr/sbin/lsof
...

rday
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 09:52:59 -0400
From: "Alan J. Gagne" <alanjgagne gmail com>
Subject: RE:Where is lsof?
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <49FEF33B 80003 gmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

>
> Where is it in F9?
>
>


]# yum info lsof
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Installed Packages
Name       : lsof
Arch       : i386
Version    : 4.80
Release    : 2.fc10
Size       : 867 k
Repo       : installed
Summary    : A utility which lists open files on a Linux/UNIX system
URL        : ftp://lsof.itap.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof
License    : zlib
Description: Lsof stands for LiSt Open Files, and it does just that: it
lists
          : information about files that are open by the processes
running on a
          : UNIX system.



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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 09:57:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday crashcourse ca>
Subject: RE:Where is lsof?
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID:
       <alpine LFD 2 00 0905040956060 25255 localhost localdomain>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Mon, 4 May 2009, Alan J. Gagne wrote:

> ]# yum info lsof
> Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
> Installed Packages
> Name       : lsof
> Arch       : i386
> Version    : 4.80
> Release    : 2.fc10
> Size       : 867 k
> Repo       : installed
> Summary    : A utility which lists open files on a Linux/UNIX system
> URL        : ftp://lsof.itap.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof
> License    : zlib
> Description: Lsof stands for LiSt Open Files, and it does just that: it lists
>           : information about files that are open by the processes running on
> a
>           : UNIX system.
>

 i could also have pointed out that, since the original poster
claimed that the man page existed, then the package was almost
certainly installed and it was nothing more than a search path issue.

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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 10:04:16 -0400
From: "Kevin J. Cummings" <cummings kjchome homeip net>
Subject: Re: install disk
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <49FEF5E0 2000309 kjchome homeip net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Michael Shelby wrote:
> I got fedora 11 in easy, i am glad you said something about it. I am
> playing around with it now, I needed 64 bit so I could put all my ram to
> work. It says it is a preveiw, will I have to reinstall later or can I
> just upgrade when the final version comes out. I swear last Q&A and
> thanks again.

No.  If you install the preview, your repos should be pointing to
Rawhide.  At some point during the preview, they will change and point
to the new F11 repos.  When F11 becomes released, you will no longer be
on rawhide, but on F11.  At, least, that's the way I understand it will
work.  My F8 machine has started to run pre-upgrade, and is waiting for
its next reboot to join the F11 party (I just have to wait until it is
convenient for me).


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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:19:40 -0400
From: Dave Feustel <dfeustel mindspring com>
Subject: Re: Where is lsof?
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <200905041419 n44EJeCP029624 mx1 redhat com>

Thanks All for the info. I fixed my search path.



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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 09:58:20 -0500
From: Bruno Wolff III <bruno wolff to>
Subject: Re: Fedora 11 fail because of Anaconda :(
To: Peter Robinson <pbrobinson gmail com>
Cc: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
       <fedora-test-list redhat com>, fedora-list redhat com
Message-ID: <20090504145820 GB7834 wolff to>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 15:15:24 +0100,
 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson gmail com> wrote:
>
> I agree the test days have helped but its concerning that I still
> can't do an install with custom partitions with the preview release.
> And there doesn't seem to be a lot of traction on the bug to fix it
> before release.

Have you tried using a boot.iso image to do a network install? There
were a lot of bugs addressed in anaconda-11.5.0.48-1 (-2 is now available)
since the preview image.



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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 11:20:56 -0400
From: Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh redhat com>
Subject: Re: Selinux disallows read-only loop mount of a file, but
       only at boot [SOLVED]
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <49FF07D8 7010607 redhat com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

On 05/04/2009 05:19 AM, David wrote:
> [david kablamm ~]$ cat
> /etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts | grep mount
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/autofs       --      system_u:object_r:automount_script_exec_t:s0
> /bin/mount.*  --      system_u:object_r:mount_exec_t:s0
> /bin/umount.* --      system_u:object_r:mount_exec_t:s0
> /sbin/mount.* --      system_u:object_r:mount_exec_t:s0
> /sbin/umount.*        --      system_u:object_r:mount_exec_t:s0
> /var/run/autofs.*     system_u:object_r:automount_var_run_t:s0
> /var/run/pam_mount(/.*)?      system_u:object_r:pam_var_run_t:s0
> /usr/bin/smbmnt       --      system_u:object_r:smbmount_exec_t:s0
> /bin/fusermount       --      system_u:object_r:mount_exec_t:s0
> /usr/bin/smbmount     --      system_u:object_r:smbmount_exec_t:s0
> /usr/bin/fusermount   --      system_u:object_r:mount_exec_t:s0
> /usr/sbin/automount   --      system_u:object_r:automount_exec_t:s0
> /usr/sbin/rpc\.mountd --      system_u:object_r:nfsd_exec_t:s0
> /etc/apm/event\.d/autofs      --      system_u:object_r:automount_exec_t:s0
>
> [root kablamm david]# chcon -t mount_exec_t
> /HUGE/get/iso/Fedora-09-i386-DVD/Fedora-09-i386-DVD.iso
>
> Appears to be [SOLVED] ... off for a fizzy drink :-)
>
> If I got this wrong, please comment.
>
What OS Are you running?

What policy version?




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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:24:02 -0400
From: Jack Howarth <howarth bromo med uc edu>
Subject: Re: nVidia vs. ATI graphics card for fedora
To: fedora-list redhat com
Message-ID: <20090504152402 GA6607 bromo med uc edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Kevin,
  Our experience here with x86_64 Fedora 10 linux and
the radeon drivers on a couple machines with Radeon X1650 Pro
cards has been very uneven. One of the boxes is very fragile
to spontaneous reboots when running the free drivers and
using UCSF Chimera to work with MD trajectories. The other
box still has a habit of blanking the screen for minutes
at time despite having the nomodeset flag passed to the
kernel. I am afraid things will only get worse under Fedora 11.
So far, testing on a MacBook Pro with X1600 graphics, I find
that pymol still renders outside of its windows. While I
appreciate the aims of these changes to X11 and the free
drivers, the problem is that Fedora has become destablized.
It is really exposing the limitations of a monolithic kernel
when the graphics drivers keep taking down the entire box.
                       Jack
ps We run a large amount of OpenGL software (free and
commercial) and have found the non-free drivers to be
more compatible in general. Hopefully this will improve
over time.



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