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What does the OS mean when it says ' insert media labeled Fedora
12-Alpha #1? And where do I find this media?


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>    1. Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different
>       workspaces (Michael Hennebry)
>    2. Re: F11: keyboard issues after upgrade: GTK_IM_MODULE=cedilla
>       and  keyboard preferences (wwp)
>    3. Nostalgy Thunderbird Plugin (Henrique Faria)
>    4. Re: &*^^%%$!!! Konqueror is getting less and less stable !
>       (Rex Dieter)
>    5. Re: Netbook Opinion (Jim)
>    6. Re: &*^^%%$!!! Konqueror is getting less and less stable !
>       (listmail websage ca)
>    7. Re: Understanding Local Networking - help please? (Jim)
>    8. Re: VMWare Server 2.0.1 On Fedora 11 64Bit (Kevin J. Cummings)
>    9. Fonts, Wine, FC11 ? (Jim)
>   10. Re: Netbook Opinion (Frank Cox)
>   11. Re: F11 on Acer One - unpluging the power cable is not
>       detected (Frank Cox)
>   12. Re: &*^^%%$!!! Konqueror is getting less and less stable !
>       (Linuxguy123)
>   13. RE: permission denied (Ed Landaveri)
>   14. RE: Netbook Opinion (Tait Clarridge)
>   15. Re: &*^^%%$!!! Konqueror is getting less and less stable !
>       (n2xssvv.g02gfr12930)
>   16. Re: F11 on Acer One - unpluging the power cable is not
>       detected (Jim)
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:54:12 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Michael Hennebry <hennebry web cs ndsu nodak edu>
> Subject: Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different
> 	workspaces
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement,	and advice for using
> 	Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
> Message-ID:
> 	<alpine DEB 1 00 0909161046450 12900 mail cs ndsu nodak edu>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2009, Anne Wilson wrote:
> 
> > On Sunday 30 August 2009 17:43:22 Michael Hennebry wrote:
> >> Since I installed F11,
> >> rather a lot of labels are black on dark gray or black on black.
> >> 'Tis quite annoying.
> >
> > That's controlled by the theme and many need compositing on to avoid this.
> > Experiment with themes until you get one that's better for you if you can't
> > use Desktop Effects.
> 
> I tried to play with themes,
> but could not find anything in the gui that even hinted at my problem.
> 
> A friend of mine solved the problem.
> I had installed F11 and kept a home directory from F9.
> There have been syntax changes for data in the .kde directory.
> The new KDE was angry and taking it out on my labels.
> 
> -- 
> Michael   hennebry web cs ndsu NoDak edu
> "Pessimist: The glass is half empty.
> Optimist:   The glass is half full.
> Engineer:   The glass is twice as big as it needs to be."
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:12:49 +0200
> From: wwp <subscript free fr>
> Subject: Re: F11: keyboard issues after upgrade: GTK_IM_MODULE=cedilla
> 	and  keyboard preferences
> To: fedora-list redhat com
> Message-ID: <20090916181249 67618725 monolith>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hello Rodrigo,
> 
> 
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 08:31:35 -0300 Rodrigo Renault <rodrigolrenault gmail com> wrote:
> 
> > 2009/9/15 wwp <subscript free fr>
> > 
> > >
> > > BTW, does "IMSETTINGS_IGNORE_ME=yes" tells that it will ignore the
> > > GTK_IM_MODULE I previously set in ~/.bash_profile?
> > >
> > 
> > The only thing I found about the "IMSETTINGS_IGNORE_ME" was: "A parameter to
> > hide Input Method from the inventory", but I believe that it's not the
> > problem.I forgot to tell you that Fedora 11  did not install the immodules
> > package by default, so try to install them.
> > 
> > # yum install gtk2-immodules
> > 
> > Then for precaution update your immodules list.
> > 
> > *#gtk-query-immodules-2.0-32*
> > 
> > Then edit your "none.conf" file again, setting "cedilla" input method
> > "GTK_IM_MODULE=gtk-im-cedilla".
> > 
> > And finally edit the file "/etc/gtk-2.0/i386-redhat-linux-gnu/gtk.immodules"
> > search for the line
> > *"cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale"
> > "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oct:sq:tr:wa"*
> > and add your keyboard.
> > 
> > in my case: *"cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale"
> > "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oct:sq:tr:wa:en"*
> > 
> > Reboot your system, and see your input method
> > cat ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/interface/%gconf.xml
> > 
> > Search for something like this:
> >     <entry name="gtk-im-module" mtime="1229379660" type="string">
> >         <stringvalue>gtk-im-cedilla</stringvalue>
> >     </entry>
> > 
> > Now I believe that you will be able to use cediila.
> 
> Thanks for your detailed help, Rodrigo.
> 
> For the record, I could "fix" it by just installing gtk2-immodules
> using yum and rebooting. As my ~/.bash_profile was containing:
>   export GTK_IM_MODULE=cedilla
> (as it worked in F10 before my upgrade to F11), and it worked.
> I didn't need to do anything more. Since it's working fine I think I
> won't follow all the steps you described in your previous email, unless
> I want cedilla as default for every xorg user, I presume.
> 
> My other problem is still there.. my keyboard repeat delay and rate
> settings are not taken into account after a graphical login, unless I
> open the keyboard properties dialog and click close. The correct
> settings are shown in gconf-editor and modifying values in gconf-editor
> does apply immediately. Any idea?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> wwp
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:18:48 -0300
> From: Henrique Faria <henriqfaria gmail com>
> Subject: Nostalgy Thunderbird Plugin
> To: fedora-list redhat com
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Does anyone knows how to install nostalgy plugin in Thunderbird Beta 3?
> Thanks in advance,
> henrique
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:20:47 -0500
> From: Rex Dieter <rdieter math unl edu>
> Subject: Re: &*^^%%$!!! Konqueror is getting less and less stable !
> To: fedora-list redhat com
> Message-ID: <h8r376$u6h$1 ger gmane org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
> 
> Linuxguy123 wrote:
> 
> > F11, KDE4.3.1, all updates.
> > 
> > Konqueror is getting less and less stable.  Proof: go to
> > www.circuitcity.com and click on "Cameras" at the top and tell me what
> > happens.
> 
> For me (on F11/x86_64 with kde-4.3.1), clicking on 'Cameras[+]' goes to a 
> page listing a bunch of cameras.  go figure.
> 
> I assume you saw a crash?
> 
> -- Rex
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:21:31 -0400
> From: Jim <mickeyboa sbcglobal net>
> Subject: Re: Netbook Opinion
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement,	and advice for using
> 	Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
> Message-ID: <4AB1108B 5060505 sbcglobal net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> On 09/15/2009 08:26 PM, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> > Hey Guys,
> > I am about to get a netbook for home/work so it must dual boot Linux
> > and windows. What are some opinions anyone having used various brands
> > have?
> >
> > Was looking at Acer's and Asus books.
> >
> > The Acer Aspire One 751H looks pretty nice.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > jlc
> >
> >    
> IF the Aspire One 751H has the 160gb hardrive you would have no problem of dual booting.
> Do you have a external CDROM/USB ? I carry a mini Sony cdrom with my Asus1000 netbook.
> 
> I use the full version of Fedora 11 on a 40gb SSD Asus1000 and it works just as good as my Dell Laptop.
> 
> As far as what Linux OS i would use use Fedora 11 it has more of the updated drivers for your wireless card, video, than does Ubuntu, The debian distro is 6-8 mo. behind fedora on drivers and forget about that BS about the bleeding edge OS, Fedora 11 is very stable.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:32:50 -0700
> From: listmail websage ca
> Subject: Re: &*^^%%$!!! Konqueror is getting less and less stable !
> To: fedora-list redhat com
> Message-ID: <20090916093250 26dda220 niven sohotech ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:37:33 -0600
> Linuxguy123 <linuxguy123 gmail com> wrote:
> 
> > F11, KDE4.3.1, all updates. 
> > 
> > Konqueror is getting less and less stable.  Proof: go to
> > www.circuitcity.com and click on "Cameras" at the top and tell me what
> > happens.
> > 
> > I've had about 5 Konqueror crashes in the last day. Luckily its pretty
> > good at recovering the open websites when you restart it.   But the
> > browsing history for each on is lost, ie you can't go to the previous
> > page on any of them. 
> > 
> > FRUSTRATING !
> > 
> > Honestly... how many YEARS have we been seeing Konqueror do this sort
> > of thing ?
> > 
> > I still LOVE  KDE/Linux/OS.
> > 
> 
> 
> I just tried it with Konq 4.3.1 and no obvious issues here. This is
> without Flash installed and when I choose to view a specific camera
> I get the usual popup notice about not having the plugin, which I can
> just close and continue without problem.
> 
> I'm also using F11/x86_64 with all updates applied but in my case I'm
> running it under GNOME (always found KDE too buggy for my liking).
> 
> I'm betting it's not the browser but one or more plugins at fault. 
> 
> G
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:38:30 -0400
> From: Jim <mickeyboa sbcglobal net>
> Subject: Re: Understanding Local Networking - help please?
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement,	and advice for using
> 	Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
> Message-ID: <4AB11486 5090506 sbcglobal net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> On 09/16/2009 11:52 AM, Mikkel wrote:
> > DB wrote:
> >    
> >> So now I can see all 3 computers from both Fedora machines.  Now to find
> >> out how to access the files/mount the shares.
> >>
> >>      
> > You may want to read the fusesmb man page.
> >
> > Mikkel
> >    
> I don't know if you are using KDE or not , but the filemanager Konqueror 
> has a great app called "fish" that let connect to other Linux boxes 
> using "ssh" to move files between boxes.
> As a example of connecting to another box;
> 
> In url box of Konqueror, Put    fish://bob 192 168 1 100 and type in 
> bob's password.  It will display the file system of Bob on your box, and 
> all you have to do is drag files between both boxes.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:00:37 -0400
> From: "Kevin J. Cummings" <cummings kjchome homeip net>
> Subject: Re: VMWare Server 2.0.1 On Fedora 11 64Bit
> To: fred intelvision sc, "Community assistance, encouragement,	and
> 	advice for using Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
> Message-ID: <4AB119B5 6020302 kjchome homeip net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> On 09/16/2009 06:48 AM, Frederick Abrams wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > I've got a PC with Quad Core processor and 8 GB ram i'm running Fedora
> > 11 (2.6.29.4-167.fc11.x86_64) and trying to install VMWare server 2.0.1
> > (VMware-server-2.0.1-156745.x86_64.rpm)
> 
> I upgraded to this version on 7/25.  I had to do some work to get it to
> work right.  I downloaded the following files as well:
> 
> > http://www.saarlinux.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/vmware-server-modules-2629tar.gz
> > http://codebin.cotescu.com/vmware/vmware-server-install-script.tar.gz
> 
> Between the 2 extra files, I was able to get my modules compiled and
> vmware server to work again for me.  (I no longer remember which file
> worked or even if both are needed.)
> 
> -- 
> Kevin J. Cummings
> kjchome rcn com
> cummings kjchome homeip net
> cummings kjc386 framingham ma us
> Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org)
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:34:18 -0400
> From: Jim <mickeyboa sbcglobal net>
> Subject: Fonts, Wine, FC11 ?
> To: Fedora-Maillist <fedora-list redhat com>
> Message-ID: <4AB1219A 6040305 sbcglobal net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> FC11/Kde
> 
> I'm trying to run a poker program FullTiltPoker in wine, the program 
> starts and takes me to the Login window and there are white boxes but no 
> Fonts, Characters
> in that window when displayed in KDE4.3 .
> 
> Is this Font problems in Fedora or Wine ? And what fonts do I need 
> installed.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:42:42 -0600
> From: Frank Cox <theatre sasktel net>
> Subject: Re: Netbook Opinion
> To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q? Community_assistance, _encouragement,
> 	=09and_advice_for_?= using Fedora.  "	<fedora-list redhat com>
> Cc: Hiisi <very-cool rambler ru>
> Message-ID: <20090916114242 ca41fd47 theatre sasktel net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:21:15 +0400
> Hiisi wrote:
> 
> > Why you did so? Was it really necessary to activate window$ if you
> > only wanted to see that everything is in order?
> 
> That was the easiest way to give it a quick test.  If there was a problem I
> could have returned it and exchanged it for another one without going through
> a big song and dance.
> 
> > Why you didn't convert those useless window$ into cash? 
> 
> The aforementioned big song and dance.  It wouldn't be worth the hassle and
> argument.  I bought it as it came and made it into what I really wanted, so
> that was sufficient for me.
> 
> If there was a clear procedure to follow (Send in form X and we will mail you a
> refund) then I would have followed that.  But there isn't.
> 
> I have never been completely sure if MS Windows actually raises the cost of
> a computer anyway -- the companies pre-install a bunch of junkware and
> advertising that may (or may not) cover the cost of the Windows license.  If
> that is indeed the case then a computer without a Windows license may
> legitimately cost the same amount or more than the same computer with a Windows
> license due to the lack of subsidy from the bundled advertising.
> 
> -- 
> MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:46:42 -0600
> From: Frank Cox <theatre sasktel net>
> Subject: Re: F11 on Acer One - unpluging the power cable is not
> 	detected
> To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q? Community_assistance, _encouragement,
> 	=09and_advice_for_?= using Fedora.  "	<fedora-list redhat com>
> Message-ID: <20090916114642 0df446f1 theatre sasktel net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:08:02 +0100
> jaivuk wrote:
> 
> > Yes, I mean Aspire One. I may try KDE, despite I found recommendation to use
> > "lightweight" XFCE. Unfortunately Gnome is no-go as you cannot rename menus
> > "Applications..." and it takes whole toolbar if you place it on the left
> > side...
> 
> I don't really understand your issue.  I use F11 with Gnome on my Acer Aspire
> One with no problem at all.  I have a single panel bar across the bottom of the
> screen with the main menu icon on the left and it looks and works fine.
> 
> -- 
> MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:47:54 -0600
> From: Linuxguy123 <linuxguy123 gmail com>
> Subject: Re: &*^^%%$!!! Konqueror is getting less and less stable !
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement,	and advice for using
> 	Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
> Message-ID: <1253123274 3643 37 camel localhost localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> Here is another one that doesn't work in Konqueror and does in Firefox.
> http://www.traction.com/en/viewpdf?cp=O31 &s=[k]
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:58:09 -0800
> From: Ed Landaveri <landaveri inbox com>
> Subject: RE: permission denied
> To: "Community assistance encouragement and advice for using Fedora."
> 	<fedora-list redhat com>
> Message-ID: <4CB54C5FDF2 000002C4landaveri inbox com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> Devi,
> 
>    Do not change the default permissions of /dev/pts/1 or any /dev device, that's the last thing you should do. I only would do it after everything else have failed. Your 'echo' command works on my box without any issue and as a regular user. I'm running F11 on a i686 machine: 2.6.27.30-170.2.82.fc10.i686. Look for other replies.
> 
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> |E|d|u|a|r|d|o| |L|a|n|d|a|v|e|r|i|
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> 
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ +-+-+-+-+ +-+-+-+-+-+-+
> |G|N|U|-|L|i|n|u|x| |U|s|e|r| |4|3|3|5|1|2|
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> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: devi atc tcs com
> > Sent: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:55:08 -0400
> > To: fedora-list redhat com
> > Subject: permission denied
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > echo "hi" >/dev/pts/1
> > command is giving permission denied error
> > I have changed the permission of /dev/pts/1
> > but, still, and this command is executed by root user also.
> > 
> > Awaiting your help.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Devi.
> > 
> > --
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:02:09 -0400
> From: Tait Clarridge <Tait Clarridge lavalife com>
> Subject: RE: Netbook Opinion
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement,	and advice for using
> 	Fedora."	<fedora-list redhat com>
> Message-ID:
> 	<BE3E4AD392ABD547A384D0CAFD9E77E677DA7BB0 C151MAIL int interactivemedia com>
> 	
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
> 
> 
> > On 09/15/2009 08:26 PM, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> > > Hey Guys,
> > > I am about to get a netbook for home/work so it must dual boot Linux
> > > and windows. What are some opinions anyone having used various brands
> > > have?
> > >
> > > Was looking at Acer's and Asus books.
> > >
> > > The Acer Aspire One 751H looks pretty nice.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > jlc
> > >
> > >
> > IF the Aspire One 751H has the 160gb hardrive you would have no problem
> > of dual booting.
> > Do you have a external CDROM/USB ? I carry a mini Sony cdrom with my
> > Asus1000 netbook.
> > 
> > I use the full version of Fedora 11 on a 40gb SSD Asus1000 and it works just
> > as good as my Dell Laptop.
> > 
> > As far as what Linux OS i would use use Fedora 11 it has more of the updated
> > drivers for your wireless card, video, than does Ubuntu, The debian distro is
> > 6-8 mo. behind fedora on drivers and forget about that BS about the
> > bleeding edge OS, Fedora 11 is very stable.
> 
> I agree about Fedora 11, I have it installed on my Asus EEEpc 1000HE and it is fantastic. I tweaked a few things (like font size, firefox/thunderbird themes) to make the display a little friendlier on the small screen. You would also want to install a flash blocker, I dont remember the name of the firefox plugin, but it helps a lot for loading pages that have a lot of flash ads (which are hell on the atoms).
> 
> You will probably need to tweak the sound options as well (in modprobe) for the sound card, but there are lots of how tos available.
> 
> All I have to do for mine is get me an SSD.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:08:49 +0100
> From: "n2xssvv.g02gfr12930" <n2xssvv g02gfr12930 ntlworld com>
> Subject: Re: &*^^%%$!!! Konqueror is getting less and less stable !
> To: fedora-list redhat com
> Message-ID: <4AB129B1 1070104 ntlworld com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> On 16/09/09 18:47, Linuxguy123 wrote:
> > Here is another one that doesn't work in Konqueror and does in Firefox.
> > http://www.traction.com/en/viewpdf?cp=O31&s=[k]
> >
> 
> Well, neither of those links are a problem for me with Fedora 11 latest 
> updates.
> 
> JB
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:25:27 -0400
> From: Jim <mickeyboa sbcglobal net>
> Subject: Re: F11 on Acer One - unpluging the power cable is not
> 	detected
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement,	and advice for using
> 	Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
> Message-ID: <4AB12D97 5000305 sbcglobal net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> On 09/16/2009 01:46 PM, Frank Cox wrote:
> > On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:08:02 +0100
> > jaivuk wrote:
> >
> >    
> >> Yes, I mean Aspire One. I may try KDE, despite I found recommendation to use
> >> "lightweight" XFCE. Unfortunately Gnome is no-go as you cannot rename menus
> >> "Applications..." and it takes whole toolbar if you place it on the left
> >> side...
> >>      
> > I don't really understand your issue.  I use F11 with Gnome on my Acer Aspire
> > One with no problem at all.  I have a single panel bar across the bottom of the
> > screen with the main menu icon on the left and it looks and works fine.
> >
> >    
> KDE-4.3 works great on FC11.
> 
> 
> 
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