[Fedora-livecd-list] Kadischi: roadmap from Board meeting ?

[Jane Dogalt]

--- Jasper O'neal Hartline <jasperhartline at adelphia.net> wrote:
 
> 
> >7) selinux, via ext2 image as an option
> >  
> >
> I think xattrs support in SquashFS is what we want.

If thats an option, then yes, I don't see any other benefit from ext2.

> 
> >8) feature flag to remove fedora/rh art/trademarks from target so that
> output
> >can be redistributed as a new distribution without any special permission
> from
> >fedora/rh.
> >
> >  
> >
> Now this is really strange, Kadischi is a tool to yes, to create LiveCD 
> media..
> but to create Fedora Core CD media. Although Rahul mentions running 
> Anaconda in Debian
> may be possible, I don't think right now is the time to be focusing any 
> efforts on running Kadischi
> on everything but Fedora Core. Likewise in this same respect, Kadischi 
> shouldn't be focusing
> on allowing users to build thier own "distribution". It is a LiveCD tool 
> not a distribution tool.

I think you call it strange because you don't understand what I'm saying,
although... to add 

#9) support multiple distributions, i.e. fedora5, fedora6, centos-4.3, debian,
etc...  I.e. with modular code for the distribution specific stuff, i.e.
installer, initramfs tweaking, well... just about everything.  but still, this
is on my list, just at the bottom.

But to clarify what I meant- which was purely within a fedora-core-5 is the
only distribution in the world context- this goes back to this post of mine
which no one ever answered-

https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-livecd-list/2006-March/msg00248.html

> 
> I'm not saying it can't be done, sure it could.
> I just don't think it is Kadischi's job to help user's build thier own 
> distribution's LiveCD.
> This is something the user should be doing, not Kadischi.

Maybe you did understand what I meant.  If so, then I think the answer is-

Is such a feature going to be used by many users of the tool?

Would such a feature be needed by a user that wanted to post their ISO for the
world to use, without having to ask fedora or redhat for permission first?  For
example the LWN author, reviewing kadischi, and wanting to post their output
without first asking fedora or redhat for permission?

I think it makes sense to give the user that power.  Though I'll admit, if it's
just a matter of the user downloading a post-install script from somewhere else
and plugging it in, then it's purely a political issue if fedora wants to be
the source of that particular post-install script.

> 
> Take for instance I want to build a new distribution that will be 
> deployed to a few people somewhere..
> I get Kadischi, modify it a bit to do what I need in that particular 
> case, and use it.
> If this involves removing trademarks and artwork, so be it that is my 
> responsibility as a user.
> Just my 2 cents.

Granted.  I just envision the tool being used to post dozens if not hundreds of
special purpose tools on the net.  I mean, there are what 500 linux
distributions out there?  How many are knoppix derivatives?  I want to see even
more that are fedora livecd derivatives.  I think there is no end to the
usefulness of a livecd generating tool.  And seeing the post that I linked to
above, this redistribution issue remains a very big unanswered question in my
book.

-jdog


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