The Fedora Core Pruning project, Re: some minor Core pruning

Rahul Sundaram sundaram at fedoraproject.org
Thu Jun 29 13:59:32 UTC 2006


David Eisenstein wrote:

>Bill Nottingham wrote:
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>>David Eisenstein (deisenst at gtw.net) said: 
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>>>Further -- I see much glibness about saying, "Throw this over to extras.
>>>Throw that over to extras.  Extras can take care of it."  I understand
>>>there appears to be some community-wide consensus that it is a "Good
>>>Thing"®™ to reduce the size of Fedora Core.  (I am afraid I don't know
>>>Mr. Extras - can he handle all these new packages?)
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>>Look over the list of packages provided. It's all packages with no
>>dependencies, either runtime or buildtime. Most of said packages are
>>libraries. I see no motiviation for Core to provide libraries that
>>aren't actually *used*; there is really no way that that benefits
>>users.
>>
>>Bill
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>I apologize, Bill, and to all of you, for my rather harsh words.  The
>glibness is mine, not yours.  Sorry.
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>Dumb question:  Where exactly do I find the list of packages provided?
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List of packages planned to be removed?  It was posted earlier in this 
list.

>One thing that does concern me some is:  What of people who, say, have been
>using Fedora Core since the olden days, and who have custom or proprietary
>applications on their computers that may require some of these older
>deprecated libraries that upgrading to a newer Core will no longer provide?
> Even though *current* applications in Core (or Extras?) no longer use such
>libraries, it can still affect these users who may wish to upgrade to newer
>releases of Core.  For some, altering their sources to work with a newer
>supported library may not be an option.
>
>Please bear in mind that these thoughts come from a Legacy standpoint, as
>Fedora Legacy has been my main contribution to the Fedora Project:  So
>keeping older things running has been my focus so far, not running the
>latest and greatest.  (What was that SELinux thing again?  ;-)  )
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>The plan then is to let Fedora Extras contributors take over these library
>packages to continue maintaining them for new Core releases, right?  If no
>one steps forward then to maintain these packages, do they then become
>orphaned/unmaintained or even unavailable?
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>Thanks for your patience with me.
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Yes.


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Rahul 






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