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Re: development cycle (Was: Re: What's New in Fedora Core 5 Test2 (LWN): Some comments)



Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:

Am Montag, den 30.01.2006, 10:14 -0800 schrieb Jesse Keating:
On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 10:25 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
While we are at the topic already: This fact was badly communicated.
There seems to be a whole lot of confusion about the current Fedora
release cycle in the community -- for example the german
wikipedia-writers have a long discussion about it and nowhere can find a
*official* statement [*1] that the nine month cycle for FC5 was only a
exception:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Fedora_Core#6_Monate
I'm confused.  Wasn't our original and still official release schedule
every 6-9 months?

Now I'm confused. Wasn't the original and still official release
schedule "Fedora Core is released two or tree times a year"? (that would
be 4-6 months)

This guideline still is true.

Seems it still is:
http://fedora.redhat.com/about/rhel.html
Release Interval Fedora: 4-6 months
That page is outdated and is not linked from the current website http://fedora.redhat.com. The entire website is scheduled for a transition in http://fedoraproject.org.

http://fedora.redhat.com/about/objectives.html
10. Produce robust releases approximately 2-3 times per year [...]
See above.

Where is the confusion coming from?

Because nobody ever officially wrote down that the nine months time
frame of FC5 was a exception.

The development plans were discussed in fedora-devel list at the start of the release. Developers involved did state that it was the release cycle change was intended only for FC5. Thats as official as it gets.


And because we have no long term plan for
FC6 and FC7.
We decide it when the development work starts. This is how releases are planned for almost every software out there.

I know that Suse and Ubuntu always release around March
(+/-1 some weeks) and September (+/- some weeks). Fedora is
unpredictable.
Two to three releases as a rough guideline pretty much stands still with Fedora Core 5 being an exception.

"BTW, I know some people that switched to Ubuntu or openSuse because they

had Gnome 2.12 (FC4 has 2.10). Ridiculous IMHO, but some people are like
this.  ;-)  "

There were various third party repositories providing GNOME 2.12 packages in FC4. People interested can always work on a backports repository for Fedora. Trying to providing all the latest packages all the time is a job for the development release and not the GA release in my opinion. Fedora development plans should be decided on the basis of the project goals and the developers involved and not to try and win who is the first race.



BTW, I have no problem when a release slips 2 or 4 weeks due to some
issues. But later releases shouldn't be effected due to this. So a
"Fedora releases normally at the end of March and End of September"
would be a really good idea IMHO.
If you want to discuss how to do all the changes we did within Fedora Core 5 development especially the major infrastructure changes such as Anaconda, modular Xorg and new GCC as system compiler within the same release schedule as the previous releases feel free to start a discussion in the fedora-devel list. Considering the major work involved, I dont see a way it could have been crammed into a 6 month release cycle. What is the problem with the current release model of doing a public non-rigid time based releases?

--
Rahul
Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers


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