Ref:Re: Some users feedback on F8 LiveCD

Gian Paolo Mureddu gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx
Sat Jan 26 00:09:21 UTC 2008


Rahul Sundaram escribió:
> Preventing a cluttered menu can be a pretty good reason.
> Well there are pretty much zero reasons why you would want to launch 
> applications like bug buddy on their own. They are helper apps. 
> Similarly the normal workflow is to click on a pdf file which evince 
> would open up and not launch evince and try to locate the file (ie) 
> document centric instead of application centric. The success of the 
> model is clear in the fact that you didn't even realize that some apps 
> were hidden till now.

Indeed. Have into account that I'm conducting this "little experiment" 
with some friends and relatives who have never used Linux in any way or 
form, and some of them have never even heard of it or any distribution 
before. Indeed it is interesting to see these model differences in "the 
wild". I now have something very interesting to say about why it is this 
way, along the lines of "It's all about your *documents*, NOT the 
application" or something to such effect. Thanks for the clarification.

> Not sure what exactly you are referring to here but you should 
> probably file a enhancement in bugzilla. Otherwise most of the 
> feedback would just get lost

Ok, in a nutshell: When a user selects his/her native language in the 
Language dialog in GDM, that should also have the effect of "somehow" 
(that's what I'm not too sure would be feasible) also select the 
appropriate keyboard layout for that language. For instance, in this 
case, the language would be Spanish-Mexico, and they keyboard layout 
would be Latinamerican, however upon selecting the language in GDM, the 
keyboard layout in the session remains US English (which is 
substantially different!). I was actually kind of expecting this to be 
subject to objections from those users I handed the LiveCDs to, and to 
minimize that I handed also detailed instructions on how to change that. 
The feedback I got was that the instructions were very much appreciated, 
and "Why is that the appropriate layout is not selected upon language 
selection?" question. Thanks for the pointer, I'll open an RFE in 
Bugzilla as soon as I can.
>
>> These recent efforts had made me want to try to play around with the 
>> LiveCD tools to create a "respin" with localized OOo, of course I 
>> know why it was left out of the LiveCDs (it simply takes too much 
>> disk space, and having all locales amounts almost to an entire 700Mb 
>> CD), I wonder how much it would take with only one extra locale (as I 
>> understand US English is "hardcoded"). At any rate, this is no topic 
>> for marketing, but rather for the LiveCD or Desktop lists. Thanks 
>> again for your input.
>
> You can squeeze in OOo with just one locale. I have created a number 
> of spins like that. Feel free to reuse them to create your own custom 
> spin with any locale you want.
>
> http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-assamese.ks
> http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-bengali.ks
> http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-gujarati.ks
> http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-hindi.ks
> http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-kannada.ks
> http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-malayalam.ks 
> http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-marathi.ks
> http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-oriya.ks
> http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-punjabi.ks
> http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-tamil.ks
> http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-telugu.ks

Interesting, I'll have a look to those kickstart files and use as a base 
for one for Spanish_MX (or rather Spanish_ES, considered the 
international implementation of the language, so even more people could 
benefit... Darn, too much to do, and so little time!). Thanks again for 
your suggestions and input.
>
> Rahul
>

Gian




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