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Re: Temporary FI platform

So....I could theoretically take on this task. By theoretically, I
mean that, "...get the infrastructure for an FI platform going..."
sounds fairly benign, but if it involves actual installation and
whatnot, I may not be your girl.

Feel free to ping me with more details offline... or on-list, in case
anyone else is interested in hearing about the nitty-gritty.  Or I can
get on irc and discuss if that is better. :)



On 8/12/09, Mel Chua <mel redhat com> wrote:
> The short: It looks like zikula isn't going to make it in time for us to
> use it as a platform for FI for the F12 cycle. Therefore, proposal:
> Temporarily use wordpress as a quick-and-dirty FI platform for this
> release cycle only, designing the workflow for zikula so that we have a
> constant motivation ("argh, this workflow isn't made for this
> software!") to drive the zikula stuff forward and migrate to it ASAP.
> The extra work this would create is not too bad.
> * migrating articles from wp to zikula when zikula is ready (we'd choose
> persistent URLs that work for both platforms)
> * manual cross-linking of translations while using wp (one wp instance
> per language)
> * Design's design for FI wp would have to be readapted to fit zikula
> when the time comes.
> Rationale: We have people who know wp and can make it function fast; wp
> was a runner-up during platform comparison (iirc), it's sufficiently
> feature-limited for the things we want that we'll be dissuaded for using
> it for way too long, and the number of published items that will go out
> over FI in the next 6 months is manageable (even if we average one item
> per day, that's 182.5 items; <200 is small enough to manually migrate if
> absolutely need be).
> Question: Can you spot any flaws in this idea? Rip it apart! If there
> aren't any gaping holes by the weekend, I'll ask Infrastructure to get
> us up a quick test instance to start with, so we can begin publishing
> finished material being created right now, like Paul's Summit usb key doco.
> Help needed: Ian is out of commission for a few weeks as the school year
> starts, so we're looking for someone to step up to get the
> infrastructure for an FI platform going. Any takers? (We'll know by this
> weekend whether it's wordpress or not; if wordpress, it'll be easy.)
> Context: see log below (slightly edited for relevance).
> --Mel
> <ianweller> mchua: i have some bad news about FI
> <mchua> ianweller: just saw the email thread - not going to make it in
> time for F12?
> <ianweller> mchua: correct
> <mchua> ianweller: I'm reading through and trying to understand what the
> blockers are.
> <mchua> ianweller: I've got my heart set on having an FI feed live for
> Ambassadors to use for the F12 cycle by the time beta goes out
> <mchua> ianweller: (...though I could be convinced of the impossibility
> of this)
> <ianweller> well, all the luck in the world to you :)
> <mchua> ianweller: can you tell me why the following is a terrible idea:
> <mchua> ianweller: wordpress as temporary F12 FI feed.
> <ianweller> none of these reasons might be blockers, i'm playing devil's
> advocate...
> <ianweller> 1) may be difficult to import back into zikula.
> <mchua> ianweller: quick, dirty, content goes up somewhere; it's tagged,
> feeds automagically exist, we can pick URLs so that they'll be
> persistent when we move to zikula.
> * mchua nods
> <ianweller> 2) less workflow management.
> <mchua> Definitely less workflow management.
> <ianweller> 3) dirty kludge for the time being that may accidentally
> become permanent.
> <mchua> 3) is what worries me.
> <mchua> ...though I am willing to sit down every week and manually crank
> through workflow, and sit down when zikula comes up and manually port
> over every article, if need be.
> <ianweller> that's all i can think of. :)
> <mchua> (the latter will actually be 'write a python script that...')
> <ianweller> python is like crack
> <mchua> and if marketing and news folks are gritting their teeth through
> using wordpress every week, zikula will get up in a freakin' hurry
> <mchua> I want wordpress to be functional, but to be functional *with
> pain* so that we don't get complacent and use it for F13 as well, basically.
> <mchua> ianweller: but it's *happy* crack!
> <ianweller> lol
> <mchua> ianweller: i sampled everything in the medicine cabinet for
> comparison.
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