[Bug 238367] Review Request: xu4 - Ultima IV recreated

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Summary: Review Request: xu4 - Ultima IV recreated


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=238367





------- Additional Comments From dev at nigelj.com  2007-05-10 05:34 EST -------
(In reply to comment #9)
> (In reply to comment #7)
> > Right, I know this may be the first reject in a while so I'm gonna split 
this
> > into two parts, jargon and some rationale, 
> > 
> > BUT... although Autodownloader in principal is still okay, on extra
> > consideration of the PackagingGuidelines and quick discussions with a 
couple of
> > other contributors (including other Games SIG people) I don't feel 
comfortable
> > setting the flag to +
> It would have been nice if I was involved in these discussions. Are there any
> logs of them, any other reasons mentioned in the discussions not mentioned in
> comment #7 ?
The discussions were quick "oh, by the way, whats your opinion on this compared 
with that" (this been the review, that been the guidelines) otherwise.
> If I understand correctly this boils down too:
> > * While per the autodownloader review I'm happy with files been placed in 
the
> > users directory but it's the fact that the game won't start without the user
> > agreeing is in my opinion bad
> > 
> The rest I agree with and is why autodownloader was written to begin with. So 
if
> I understand correctly the only real issue is, that the xu4 engine is not 
usable
> without any data files. Don't we ship players / libs for a gazillion other 
file
> formats too, I'm sure most of them are not usefull without actual data files,
> and that we do not ship data files in all supported formats. I fail to see the
> difference.
> For example we also ship libsidplay and the xmms-sid plugin, where as I'm sure
> we do not ship any .sid files. Both are useless without any .sid files still 
we
> ship them.
I think you'd find the difference is that xu4 cannot START without the files, 
by all means you can start xmms with the -sid plugin, and you can sure build 
programs with libsidplay.
> Anyways I'll contact Spot about this, and then escalate as needed.

As I've stated autodownloader is fine, it can even be used by independant 
packages, but we are talking about xu4 here, and the data files, do not meet 
the packaging guidelines, the game will not start/work at all without them.

Until the guidelines are changed to suit this, or there is a consensus, OR 
someone from fedora-legal states that it's okay, I'm not changing position on 
this one.

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