[Bug 461484] Review Request: twin - Textmode window environment for Linux

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--- Comment #16 from Milos Jakubicek <xjakub at fi.muni.cz>  2009-02-24 16:15:53 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #14)
> - if run from a GUI (direct access from the VM GUI), I can see the message
> "press PAUSE or mouse right button for menu" on the topmost line of the screen.
> The rest of the screen is filled with an ugly backgroun, vaguely similar to a
> text screen (the aspect from the turbo vision GUI from the '90s ) full of stars
> (one star per cell). The only way to interact is to press the right button of
> the mouse, keep it pressed while moving over the desired menu entry and release
> the button only after the mouse is over the desired entry. Not the most
> intuitive interface... I've never seen that before on any system that I've
> worked with, since the era of SFDX 

I'm quoting the reply from upstream:

"
First of all, twin is not really supposed to be run inside a generic terminal
(or terminal emulator) as the features will be limited and the display will
look ugly (stars instead of pseudo-graphic characters, limited or missing
mouse support, ...)
For the best experience it is supposed to be used on Linux console or,
if you feel silly, inside an X11 session with an Unicode font or inside
itself.

As for the retro look reminding Turbo Vision GUI, it is intentional.
After all, twin means Text-mode WINdowing environment.

The look-and-feel can be customized up to a certain limit, but basicly
twin is supposed to sit "in the background" while the user interacts with
windows drawn inside it.
So, maybe the default configuration should start at least a maximized terminal
with user's shell running in it...

Also, trying to judge twin _server_ user interface is a bit funny:
it's like saying that running X11 server from the command line brings up
a checkered background with a cross-shaped mouse pointer and you cannot
do anything useful with it.
While technically true, it's not how users are supposed to use X11:
just as people use window managers or desktop environments (kde/gnome/...)
running inside X11, it would be more fair (and useful) to comment at least
twdm or twterm running inside twin.
"

The sources have been updated, I've changed the source URL to SourceForge.net
on upstream's demand, added BR: libXpm-devel, fixed the typo in changelog:

New SPEC file: http://mjakubicek.fedorapeople.org/twin/twin.spec
New SRPM: http://mjakubicek.fedorapeople.org/twin/twin-0.6.1-3.fc10.src.rpm

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