[Fedora-packaging] Re: atrpms kernel modules

Axel Thimm Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
Tue Jul 25 21:31:29 UTC 2006


On Sun, Jul 23, 2006 at 05:13:40PM -0400, seth vidal wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-07-23 at 23:03 +0200, Axel Thimm wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 23, 2006 at 04:38:59PM -0400, seth vidal wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2006-07-23 at 22:19 +0200, Axel Thimm wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Jul 23, 2006 at 10:32:06PM +0300, Ville Skyttä wrote:
> > > > > > rpm -U/-i will nuke or overwrite kernel modules of the running
> > > > > > kernel in a uname-r-less scheme.
> > 
> > > But I thought it was already stated that we don't care about rpm used on
> > > the cli to handle these sorts of things. That we've assumed we're
> > > operating at a level above rpm for constructing the transaction set.
> > 
> > A scheme were two independent EVRs are merged together into one is
> > broken and banning the tool that exhibits it and pasting it away from
> > others isn't the solution. kmod-foo-1-a just has nothing to do with
> > kmod-foo-<anything>-b (in the simplified notation).
> 
> okay. I can take that.
> 
> Here's my only complaint and it is a complaint for all sides equally:
> 
> I would like one and final standard decided on BEFORE FC6 is released.
> We need to get the code for yum complete so we can stop messing around
> with this stuff.
> 
> At this point I'm in favor of whatever gets it done.

Would you be interested in adding support for the kmdl scheme to yum
(or a plugin) *before* a decision is made?

I'm suggesting this because kernel module handling is for many in this
list too abstract to discuss on paper and a live demonstration using
yum and kmdls would certainly help moving on on this subject here. A
bash shell script doing it is 9 lines, so I hope for you it would be
almost trivial to pluginize.

Even if the decision can't be made in time for FC6 (which effectively
would mean to keep the current scheme) it would not be a waste of time
as it is already in use at ATrpms, and many users want to see yum
auto-coinstalling them upon new kernels.
-- 
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
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