[Bug 520505] Spurious dependency on perl(Test::More)

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--- Comment #14 from Chris Weyl <cweyl at alumni.drew.edu>  2009-09-08 03:34:40 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #13)
> (In reply to comment #12)
> 
> > You claimed I'd done "actual harm" to Fedora
> 
> No I didn't, please read comment 4 again (I guess that's what you're referring
> to).  But let's not get caught up with this or other word games.

I don't think anyone is playing word games here.  I take it you're retracting
your claim?

> > How about, instead of bashing, we sit down and try to work out how to best do
> > this
> 
> I have plenty on my plate so no thanks for now.  But on a brief look,
> FullyTestablePerl looks like a good idea that would pretty much eliminate my
> concerns.  And Stepan's suggestion at end of comment 9 (+ some real thought
> from the packagers whether to ship the tests) would be an improvement in the
> meantime.

Good. With perl now shipping /etc/rpm/macros.perl we have a good vehicle for
delivery of any helper macros.

> > I'd like to see the evidence of any concrete harm done specific to including
> > the test suites in %_docdir, but I haven't seen any yet
> 
> The reasons given in comment 8 demonstrate why I think this stuff is harmful. 
> IMO it makes affected packages worse than they would be without those issues,
> which I think qualifies this practice as harmful.  You don't agree with it, but
> the "evidence" is there, and one (very insignificant) manifestation of it is
> this very bug.  Dismissing it as handwaving, FUD or nonexistent is a bit
> extreme.

If there's other "evidence", that is, something "actively harmful", I'd
appreciate it if you could point it out, so I could at least own up to it and
fix it.

> I think it's about time we let this bug rest in peace and continue the
> discussion in another more appropriate medium in case someone still has
> something to say.  

Fine by me :)

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