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Re: du confusion

On Friday 24 February 2006 05:35, Valdis Kletnieks vt edu wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:40:39 GMT, Joe Orton said:
> > That would be really evil, du is *supposed* to report disk usage not
> > file sizes.  It's always been true that disk usage and file size can
> > diverge, that's why du and ls are separate tools.

Actually if we added a couple of new options to ls then du could be an alias 
to ls.

> 'du' doesn't report on the space used by the inode either - and on many
> filesystems with many small files, the inode is a significant chunk of
> the used space....

On most file systems the Inodes are in a table of fixed size which makes them 
less relevant.  However du also doesn't report directory space used on a 
per-file basis so a file with a long name is regarded as taking no more space 
than a file with a short name.  du on a directory gives the total space used 
by all files and directories below it.

On Friday 24 February 2006 06:01, Joe Orton <jorton redhat com> wrote:
> You're forgetting about sparse files, I think.

Correct.  This doesn't mean we can't solve this SE Linux related issue, just 
that we need to solve it in a different way.

What if we add a new option to du to use the minimum of the apparent size and 
the reported number of blocks used.  If a sparse file on SE Linux has one 
sparse block then both numbers will be the same.  For non-sparse files du 
would report the size minus the size of xattrs.  For sparse files that have 
more than one sparse block then du would report the space used which includes 
the xattrs (IE the same thing it does now by default).

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