no ... *really* ... any ETA for updated beta?

[Féliciano Matias]

Le mer 27/08/2003 à 18:24, Stephen Smoogen a écrit :
> Geez. You people are f*ing impossible.

Don't get me wrong. I love RedHat ! RedHat does almost all right.
I use RedHat since 4.2.

But i don't like how Redhat manage the communication around RHLP.

I am not asking RedHat to bring a great website tomorrow.

If RedHat take 1 hour to create a webpage with :
- we plan to have a complete new website near September.
- issue about Trademark are currently in study.
- gnome 2.4 will be in Cambridge.
- beta2 is put back to ... This is the new scheduler : ...
  ...
it's enough for me.

Here is a copy of the announcement (July 21):
http://lwn.net/Articles/40521/

> We changed the rules. We said our Linux should be your Linux. Just as
> most of the software in Red Hat Linux is developed in an open
> fashion, so should Red Hat Linux itself; driven by those who
> develop, test, document, and translate. To accomplish this, +we're
> opening up our process+.

Check the current http://rhl.redhat.com/ one mouth later :
- "Red Hat remains excited about the open development process announced
on Monday. We're currently reworking the content of this site to clarify
questions people have raised since our announcement. We'll have the site
restored as soon as possible."

I can't be happy with this. And more important,
Debian/Gentoo/Mandrake/... users will not be attracted with this.

Mailing-list and "wait please" answers are not enough.

This is my opinion at the present time.

I am an old redhat user and confident about the future of RHLP. But
think about other users/contributers.

PS: Sorry for my poor English.

>  [A previous email used a lot more
> expletives.. but most of them were anatomically impossible for non
> contortionists] 
> 
> Lets see.. Red Hat says there are a lot of problems but cant go into
> them, they say that they are working on things but cant say when it will
> be ready, and they have said it isnt technical problems. A roadmap of
> corporate speak says that there have been some legal/contract questions
> raised by outside parties that Red Hat has to answer before it can go
> ahead. What are those problems.. I dont know... I am willing to give
> them the benefit of the doubt that if they could tell us they would.  
> If I didnt trust them somewhat, I would walk away versus giving
> sarcastic/cynical comments every 4 hours. 
> 
> On 27 Aug 2003, Féliciano Matias wrote:
> 
> >Le mer 27/08/2003 à 15:23, Jeremy Portzer a écrit :
> >> On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 07:47, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >> >   just curious.  even a general hint would be useful.
> >> > imminent?  not so imminent?  not even a gleam in someone's
> >> > eye?
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> I think we're back to the days of the answer being "when it's ready."
> >> 
> >
> >RHLP inaugurate a new kind of open project :
> >- "wait and see"
> >
> >The RedHat touch :-)
> >
> >> --Jeremy
> >
-- 
Féliciano Matias <feliciano.matias at free.fr>
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