redhat-log-viewer does not work properly

Brent Fox bfox at redhat.com
Thu Oct 30 20:33:21 UTC 2003


On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 11:22, Tammy Fox wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 04:23:50PM -0400, Brent Fox wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 16:05, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote:
> > > Hi Tammy,
> > > 
> > > The recent updates fixed it again somehow :-)
> > 
> > I doubt that.  I think that it's a bug with the pam-panel-icon.  If
> > filed a bug on this today at 
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107404
> > 
> > Basically, if you run a program that requires root password from the
> > command line, usermode caches the root password but the pam-panel-icon
> > does not appear for some reason.  The problem is that the pam-panel-icon
> > process is still running, so it's not clear to the user that the root
> > password has been cached.  This isn't good from a security point of
> > view.
> > 
> > If you start the program from the menus, the pam-panel-icon will appear
> > correctly.  
> > 
> > Cheers,
> >    Brent
> > 
> 
> I think this is the expected behavior. It is my understanding that it
> only caches the root password for the tty in which the program is
> started. Thus, if you start a consolehelper app from a GNOME terminal
> or other shell prompt, it will not show the pam panel icon because the
> pam panel icon only appears for the tty used when launching apps from
> the menu.

"Expected behavior" according to whose definition?  It may be expected
by a technical user that understands ttys, password caching, etc.  To
the non-technical user, all they see is that the OS behaves differently
depending on how the application was launched.  From a usability
perspective this has to be considered a bug.


Cheers,
   Brent





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