Fedora Project launches Pre-Extras

[Dag Wieers]

On Sun, 19 Dec 2004, Michael Schwendt wrote:

> On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:24:17 +0100 (CET), Dag Wieers wrote:
> 
> > > > Thanks. Each scheme will have advantages and disadvantages. None of my 
> > > > users have complained so far and we've explained why it is there. So it's 
> > > > strange that outsiders have a problem with it, while everyone using it 
> > > > don't care :)
> > > 
> > > Users don't complain about implementation details. They want the whole
> > > thing to "just work". They don't care what magic is used to make one
> > > package be seen as newer than another. You could even use the internal
> > > Epoch as a serial number (like old "Serial:" tag is still used by some
> > > people). Users complain as soon as the whole thing breaks or results in
> > > unexpected behaviour (such as compatible repositories upgrading eachother
> > > unnecessarily).
> > 
> > No no, most of the users do want a disttag and repotag. This mailinglist 
> > does not reflect that because very few people here are actual users.
> 
> What an irony. I bet those users are mislead by the repotag inflation and
> don't consider looking for alternatives. Tell users how to query vendor,
> distribution and signature fields, after those are used properly by
> all parties involved.

No no, read the list of advantages. None of the proposed work-arounds 
offer the same set of advantages.

https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-December/msg00498.html


> > Yes, my first paragraph was wrong, for some reason I thought fedora.us 
> > finally decided to have disttags.
> 
> Funnily, they have had disttags since day one, because it is implemented
> in the buildsystem: rh80 -> rh90 -> 1 -> 2 -> 3 in right-most part of
> release. I'm not going into a loop with regard to discussing them.

Ok. But 1 and 2 is very Fedora centric and has no purpose in the larger 
scale of things that exist. How would one know whether 3 means FC3 or EL3?

It's out of scope for Fedora Extras and therefor unacceptable as a 
scheme to me and others. (Consider also Aurora, Yellow Dog, and other 
projects that perfectly fit inside the same Extras work)

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