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Re: Serious reservations about FC2 release on 5/18

Linux is not ready for the poor souls who expect to throw a disk in and press the pretty setup button.

It isn't, and it will not be for a couple of YEARS yet. I think your expectations are out of line, personally.

Linux is not for the IT guy who basically presses buttons, and if it doesn't work you call Microsoft. (i.e. Microsoft Administrators)

At the moment Linux is for the guy who can make the modifications to the Python scripts to properly implement a dual boot MBR with a little C code to scan the partition types and resize/reconfig them on the fly.

Linux WILL eventually get that far, but not today, tomorrow next week next year. We are still in the process of evicting "bill and the gang" from the server rooms. Once wereach critical mass, very soon I suspect, we will start worrying about the desktop.

Although we are not TOTALLY without compassion. :-) Try looking at the knoppix distro on CD if you absolutely want to just run Linux part of the time, without fiddling with your XP install. No fuss and no muss....knoppix is the way to go for the IT Drones and casual users who just want a peak at Linux or see if it supports your hardware.

What is embarrassing to me, personally is that the US is over run with IT people who can't do jack if they cannot find the setup button.

The entire US IT department landscape is built by people who really do not understand the technology they are using, and are simply drones that push pretty buttons. If it doesn't have a GUI on it, they label it as "unusable" not "mature".

I would like to propose a different view...that the individuals who are making this determination are "unskilled" "overpaid" and should probably have their jobs "outsourced".

Is it any wonder most of the primary technical contributions to Linux distros that address the "desktop issues" do not come from the US anyway. (GNOME, KDE...)

I find that sickening, disgusting and well...EXACTLY why most US IT departments can't do jack except complain about the whole desktop distro THANG.

All of the issues that Fedora has on the desktop will eventually be addressed so you IT "drones" can boot Linux into run level init 5 and blow 256MB of memory on a stupid GUI just to restart your DNS server instead of just typing ./named reload on the command line at init level 3 without a gui.

If I was you I would go back to using Windows for awhile until we get there. But complaining about trivial things when we are in the process of "penguinizing" the server rooms of the world is not something you are going to get a whole lot of sympathy for.


Robert P. J. Day wrote:

On Mon, 17 May 2004, Sean Estabrooks wrote:

This hardly counts as a major flaw and IMHO Linux distros don't have to prove themselves to anyone anyway.

yes it is, and yes they do. get a grip. given the pitched battle between microsoft and linux at the moment, how many potential converts (many of whom will be running XP) do you think will be impressed with the attitude of, "hey, this is linux, we don't give a crap about your windows stuff."

oh, yeah, that'll win piles of new friends.


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