runas-patent vs sudo

[Gregory G Carter]

A general question would have to be then, is the American idiocy around 
writing "Patent products" vs real software going to impact our choice of 
distribution in other countries?

If that is the case, it would be entirely legal for example, to block 
whole IP address spaces if packages that do not pay royalties are found 
on the public internet spaces.

If you will remember, one of the reasons Ecommerce failed so miserably 
in the U.S. is because of the RSA patent issues, pretty much leaving the 
industry in a complete shambles.  American companies have to go to 
enourmous lengths and risks to offer downloads of secure software of any 
kind because of more American idiocy.

This is one of the reasons you can crack most American corporate sites 
so easily, security products are restricted and not easily accesible.

Any attempt in securing corporate sites without massive royalties, could 
land you in jail.  I don't just mean via software patents/rsa 
mechnisms.  I mean, ANY idea you use to secure your IT systems could be 
already patented.

What would be nice is a way to circumnavigate the American patent laws 
in general.

However, may I suggest to the package maintainers: Perhaps American 
patents are actually helping you in your own country.

As long as you do not submit to American patent laws, (and we don't park 
an air craft carrier out side your country to convince you otherwise...) 
you should not have any problem of undermining American business 
interests world wide.

Perhaps after the economy is more of a wreck than it already is, there 
won't be any more money left for companies like Microsoft to buy 
congress members, judical judge seats and law enforcement.

Then we can get back to writing software again, doing mathematics and in 
general advancing science for anyone, instead of only those who can pay 
to play as it is currently.

If some of you are in Europe reading this, you still have a chance to 
avoid the wreck of your own countries IT industry with millions of 
unemployed by going here:
http://swpat.ffii.org/pikta/index.en.html

Please read, understand and do something about this american idiocy.

This must not be permitted to spread otherwise your technology economies 
will be destroyed, and jobs will be heavily exported out of your 
countries to avoid paying the patents...(ala USA).

-gc

shrek-m at gmx.de wrote:

> shrek-m at gmx.de wrote:
>
>> can we expect that sudo will not be included in fc3 ?
>>
>> "due to potential patent problems" (the default redhat/fedora sentence)
>>
>>
>> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=/netahtml/search-adv.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&p=1&p=1&S1=6,775,781&OS=6,775,781&RS=6,775,781 
>>
>>
>> paten-no: 6,775,781    august 10, 2004
>> assignee: microsoft corporation
>> filed: july 20, 2000
>
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> http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/search-adv.htm
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> nice to see the amount of microsoft patents,
> i expect that we will see in the near future for what it is worth to 
> claim these patents.
>
> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=0&f=S&l=50&d=ptxt&Query=an%2Fmicrosoft 
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>
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> /Searching 1976 to present.../
>
> *Results of Search in 1976 to present db for:
> AN/microsoft*: 3431 patents.
> /Hits *1* through *50 * out of *3431
> ----
> ----
> */
>
> /Searching 1976 to present.../
>
> *Results of Search in 1976 to present db for:
> AN/novell*: 242 patents.
> /Hits *1* through *50 * out of *242*
> ----
> ----
> /
>
> /Searching 1976 to present.../
>
> *Results of Search in 1976 to present db for:
> AN/cisco*: 1345 patents.
> /Hits *1* through *50 * out of *1345*
> ----
> ----
> /*Results of Search in db for:
> AN/redhat*: 0 patents.
> ----
> ----
> *Results of Search in db for:
> AN/suse*: 0 patents.
> ----
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