FC4t2 no good without LILO

Peter Jones pjones at redhat.com
Tue Apr 12 14:05:53 UTC 2005


On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 00:44 -0700, Mike Bird wrote:
> Removing LILO from FC4t2 Core makes Fedora unusable for serious work.

I assume you intend on following this up with supporting details at some
point.

> 82 GRUB bugs:
[...]
> 15 LILO bugs:
[...]

Neither of these counts or bug lists is actually representative of the
reliability or usability of either grub or lilo.  This is especially the
case given that you've included:

 a) bugs against other programs such as up2date and the kernel,
    often with text like the title of #133849: "Grub works
    fine, the problem is FC2 hangs after initializing the swap."
 b) bugs in "modified" state, which are most likely fixed
 c) bugs in "needinfo" state, which are likely either fixed,
    bogus, or are not reproducible
 d) bugs which are duplicated (intentionally) for different
    releases or products
 e) problems that are completely unsupported, but have not yet
    been closed for whatever reason

(many of those overlap, of course)

If you've got some specific problem with grub, and it's not already
filed, file it as a bug.  If it is already reported, read the bug report
carefully, and think hard about if you can add any data that would be
useful in fixing the problem.

Making broad, unsupported statements about how crappy things are doesn't
do anything but make people like you less, and that's not productive for
you, me, or Fedora.

-- 
        Peter




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