FC4t2 no good without LILO

[Guy Fraser]

Once again, you have eloquently presented the issue.

On Tue, 2005-12-04 at 20:46 -0700, Mike Bird wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 19:23, Peter Jones wrote:
> > I'm choosing to continue not resurrecting lilo, since none of the
> > group of you who want it back are willing to provide any technical
> > reasons whatsoever.
> 
> Historically Grub has been unreliable.  [See bugzillas for Fedora,
> Debian, GNU, etc, etc.]  If someone tested the latest version of Grub
> for six months and found no bugs at all, that would not change the fact
> that historically Grub has been notoriously unreliable.
> 
> Historically Lilo has been reliable.  Even a five year old version is
> works fine.
> 
> Now, after five years of missing features and poor reliability, you
> claim that Grub is as reliable as Lilo.  I doubt it - and experience
> dictates scepticism here - but nobody yet knows for certain.
> 
> Does your opinion merit our trying Grub again sometime?  Yes.
> 
> Does your opinion justify throwing out Lilo?  No.  It's an unjustifiable
> risk based upon the packages' respective histories.
> 
> The WMD have now morphed into the difficulty of running Lilo from
> Anaconda.  (Seems incredible to me but I'll allow you some leeway here
> since I haven't actually tried to write code to invoke Lilo from
> Anaconda.)  Well, if they don't get along, add a --play-nicely patch to
> Lilo.  It's a lot easier to munge a command-line interface in Linux
> space than to reinvent all of Lilo's wheels in boot space.
> 
> Or work on Grub if Redhat shareholders don't object.  Use Grub if you
> prefer it.  Make Grub the default for newbies if you like.  Just don't
> deliberately break things for those of us who need the reliable service
> that Lilo provides.
> 
> YOU are the one who broke things.  YOU are the one who has provided no
> justification for breaking things.  WE aren't trying to dictate which
> boot loader you use.  WE just want YOU to stop breaking things.  (Is
> this getting too personal?)
> 
> Lilo worked fine until you removed it.  Put it back.  Don't mess with
> it.  Focus on Grub.  Try not to think about Lilo.  Let the scripts
> compile it with the rest of FC4 and ship it on the damned CD's.
> 
> --Mike Bird
> 
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