Availability FC5 - Test 1

Tue Nov 22 15:14:00 UTC 2005

On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 10:01 -0500, Will H. Backman wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: fedora-test-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-test-list-
> > bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Keating
> > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 5:59 PM
> > To: fedora-test-list at redhat.com
> > Subject: Re: Availability FC5 - Test 1
> > 
> > On Mon, 2005-11-21 at 17:54 -0500, Temlakos wrote:
> > > Just so long as you get up2date and RHN fixed. It is useless now.
> > 
> > These are being replaced with Pup.
> > 
> > --

> Just a mild rant from a users perspective....

> Having used Redhat since the 5.0 days, I think the tool names have
> changed way too often.  Not only are tool names different between
> distributions, but also within distributions.  I wish the LSB would
> define "meta-names" for common tools.  Each distribution could just make
> the standard tool names links to the distribution and version specific
> tool.

	Flip side to that was the MESS with pump (the old dhcp client
software).  IIRC, there were no less that three totally different major
versions with totally different parameters and totally different bugs
(and none of them worked properly with every dhcp server).  Later, (7.x)
they chanced to dhcpcd and (I believe) now to dhclient.  I would MUCH
rather have different names than two radically different applications
(even if they DID come from the same source tree) with the same name.
Almost the same thing occurred with stunnel where a lot of parameters
got dropped and you totally had to change the configuration paradigm
from one major version to the next.

> Within Redhat I started with control-panel and glint.
> I have progressed through gnome-rpm, gnome-linuxconf, and Update Agent.
> Now I have yum and the system-config-* tools.
> Am I now looking at something called Pup?

> I think the tools are getting better all the time, but I think the name
> changes hurt the manageability.

	Mike
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