todays rawhide - feedback

Antonio Olivares olivares14031 at yahoo.com
Mon Feb 20 13:02:20 UTC 2006



--- dragoran <dragoran at feuerpokemon.de> wrote:

> Antonio Olivares wrote:
> 
> >--- Rodd Clarkson <rodd at clarkson.id.au> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 08:33 -0500, Jim Cornette
> >>wrote:
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>Jim Cornette wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>dragoran wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I installed todays rawhide tree and found this
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>issues: 1) why is
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>>there no shutdown/reboot in the gnome menus ?
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>this is a desktop
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>>system and I do not want to suspend it.
> >>>>>>            
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>It is an assumption upstream that reflects if
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>your computer is capable 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>of suspending, you do not need a shutdown
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>choices. A lot of comments 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>>previously in gnome-power-manager thread.
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>Incorrect. It is a Fedora specific change.
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>Thanks! I thought that upstream GNOME decided on
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>this approach. Either 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>way, limiting the ability to reboot/shutdown is
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>not practical for many 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>reasons.
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>Yeah, for example on a system that doesn't suspend
> >>properly, but all
> >>you're offered is the opportunity to suspend.
> >>
> >>Once FC5t3 is out I'm going to do some serious
> >>looking into why my very
> >>recent Dell Inspiron 9300 doesn't suspend (or
> >>hibernate), but even so, I
> >>still need some way of shutting down the system,
> and
> >>getting it to start
> >>again (without having to reboot using the on/off
> key
> >>after suspending) 
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >Become super user 
> >$ su -
> >psswd: ******
> ># shutdown -h now
> >and/or
> ># poweroff
> >
> >  
> >
> I know that there are other ways to shutdown /
> reboot the system.
> But I don't see any reason to remove it from the
> menu, even upstream 
> does not do it. Don't tell me that having a
> shutdown/reboot button will 
> confuse users, its the opposite.
> Maybe we even will get bugreports like this
> :"updated to fc5 and 
> shutdown button dissapperd" or something like that
>
You are absolutely correct.  Why should they remove
it?

It does not make any sense.

Best Regards,

Antonio
> 
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