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Re: Gnome required?

On 06/03/07, John (J5) Palmieri <johnp redhat com> wrote:
On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 12:05 +0000, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> On 3/6/07, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram fedoraproject org> wrote:
> > Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> > > On 3/6/07, Terry Polzin <foxec208 wowway com> wrote:
> > >> I install F7T2  specifically selecting no GNOME.  What happens when I
> > >> log in
> > >> GNOME starts?  I try to remove GNOME via yum group remove and it wants to
> > >> remove openoffice and other things I want.
> > >>
> > >> Why all the GNOME baggage?
> > >
> > > I know what you mean dude. I'm not sure how other distros handle it -
> > > but Fedora seems to be unable to function (with a DE) without gnome.
> >
> > Not true.  Again find out what is causing the dependency and file bug
> > reports instead. It is clearly possible to install Fedora without a
> > graphical environment.
> Yes, of course that is possible. That is why I stated that with a
> graphical environment and desktop environment, it may very well be
> currently impossible to _not_ have gnome apps.

A lot of standard programs like open office and firefox use gtk for
things like the file and print dialogs in the fedora builds.  Firefox
even uses it for form widgets I believe.  If you remove gnome it removes
gtk+ and any other apps that use gtk+.  The correct way to go about it
is to install the apps from a base install.  They will pull in the
correct dependencies.

John (J5) Palmieri <johnp redhat com>

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Just a point isn't this backwards? As gnome depends on gtk and not the
other way round removing gnome should leave gtk (and glib, bindings
etc ) alone.

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