Upgrading to 10alpha

[John Summerfield]

Scott Robbins wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 08:38:06PM -0500, Jerry Amundson wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 8:13 PM, John Summerfield
>> <debian at herakles.homelinux.org> wrote:
>>> xen on F9 is basically useless (in my hands).
>>
>>> KVM is better, but prone to hanging guests.
>> I was wondering... having heard that I won't go there... for
>> production use anyway...
> 

I have a virtual Debian system, supposed to be remastering Knoppix. At 
various points, it becomes unresponsive, and I haven't found anything 
short of a reboot that clears it.

It's happened on a another Debian system too, and also trying to install 
CentOS5.


> I haven't run into that.  However, what I have found (and didn't care
> enough about to seriously try fixing) is that sometimes, there are mouse
> issues with MS guests, and it makes it seem slower than it should be.  

I've not yet tried virtual Windows on Linux, but the mouse is somewhat 
ill-behaved.

> 
> 
>>> VirtualPC and VirtualServer work.
>> Good to know.
> 
> I'm not familiar with VirtualServer.  However, VirtualBox runs quite
> nicely on Fedora 9 for me. 

Virtual PC and Virtual Server are Microsoft offerings.
> 
> 
>>> I have the system principally for running virtual machines. (CentOS5 is
>>> pretty unsatisfactory, for any purpose except maybe a headless server) on
>>> the machine in question.
> 
> Ah, your prejudice is showing. As my main quad core machine runs CentOS,
> (it works as my web server among other things) I made it into my desktop
> as well, and it's really quite adequate for my relatively simple needs.
> (Watching movies sometimes, browsing, email, that sort of thing.)  On a
> laptop, I have run into issues as its version of alsa seems a bit dated
> and won't work with the sound card, but everything else is fine. 

The problem with CentOS is its inability to drive the video hardware (HP 
DC7700, Intel graphics). I use three different RHEL clones and am happy 
with those, it's just the combination that gets me.

> 
>> Mine will be my desktop work environment, so also needs the latest

For that, I'm running Scientific Linux 5 on an IBM ThinkCentre.

>> features in user interface, heterogeneous systems, and sadly, Windows
>> - virtual and/or emulated.
> 
> For what it's worth, I have a very unscientific comparison of VMware,
> KVM and VirtualBox up at
> http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/vmcomp.html  

fwiw Guests of my Windows XP system appear on the LAN automatically.

> 
> For a windows guest, though, I think I would go with VirtualBox.  It
> gets better with each release (save perhaps for 1.6, but they fixed the
> problems relatively quickly). 
> 
> 


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John

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