Help me triage

[Ralf Corsepius]

On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 10:42 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> >> > I'm trying to meet a (probably overly aggressive) personal goal of
> >> > having zero NEW rawhide bugs (which are not Package Reviews) by the time
> >> > of Fedora 10 GA.  Along the way I thought I'd post some of the questions
> >> > and issues I see while triaging these bugs so we can all learn.  I
> >> > encourage others to do the same.  I've just knocked the list down to
> >> > close to 500!
> >> >
> >> > If you want to join in and help the query for NEW rawhide bugs excluding
> >> > package reviews is here: http://tinyurl.com/6llac8
> >> >
> >> > Here is what I have so far:
> >> >
> >> > # Is there a general policy around using perl in pre/post ?
> >> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462996
> >>
> >> Not that I know of, but it is good practice to avoid creating unneccessary
> >> dependancies if there are alternatives, particularly if the choice is between
> >> a large package &  small package. Many perl scripts can be done just as well
> >> with a short piece of awk/sed. This makes it much easier for people who want
> >> to build minimal/small Fedora images because they don't unneccessarily
> >> bring in the entire of Perl just for a %post script. Not that I want to single
> >> out perl - the same rationale would apply to unneccessary use of python, if
> >> the use in question could be easily written in awk/sed.
> >
> > Fully agreed, but ... consider both python and perl
> > * are part of the base-packages Fedora is based on.
> > * there are other dependencies adding much more bloat to "minimal
> > installs"
> 
> That's not entirely true.

Check "Base" in comps.xml, check mock's default setup - It's a
convention.

>  In fact its very easy now to run a complete
> gnome desktop without perl at all.
[..]
> In fact its very easy now to run a complete
> gnome desktop without perl at all. I'm doing it quite successfully
> with rawhide on my eeePC

I wish the same would apply to python, lua and others, it would spare
quite a number of bytes on my i586, because I am using perl, but don't
have much use for python ... 

> This will save a number of meg off the
> build. Python is quite a bit harder as it is used in a lot of RH
> systems packages.
Right, a major problem with RH based distros.

Ralf