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Re: firefox is regularly dying



On Mon, 13 Apr 2009, Antonio Olivares wrote:

> --- On Mon, 4/13/09, Robert P. J. Day <rpjday crashcourse ca> wrote:
>
> > From: Robert P. J. Day <rpjday crashcourse ca>
> > Subject: Re: firefox is regularly dying
> > To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list redhat com>
> > Date: Monday, April 13, 2009, 10:41 AM
> > On Mon, 13 Apr 2009, Kevin DeKorte wrote:
> >
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> > > On 04/13/2009 11:26 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 13 Apr 2009, Kalev Lember wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > > >>>   sadly, no ... it's been a busy
> > weekend.  i'll see if i can get
> > > >>> to it this aft.  although the more common
> > symptom at this point is
> > > >>> not FF dying, but FF locking up the
> > entire system, so that's going
> > > >>> to be a bit trickier to debug.
> > > >> What video card do you have? It's
> > possible that your video driver
> > > >> is buggy and you are getting GPU lockups. It
> > might make sense to
> > > >> try to rule out a video driver problem by
> > trying the reproduce
> > > >> your problems with VESA driver instead.
> > > >
> > > >   good point, so here's what i did.  while
> > running with the
> > > > "radeon" driver, i edited xorg.conf and
> > changed "radeon" to "vesa"
> > > > but, before i rebooted, i tried to browse over to
> > my nemesis,
> > > > linux-kvm.org.  not surprisingly, still using the
> > radeon driver,
> > > > that page *almost* loaded again, then locked up
> > my system.
> > > >
> > > >   i power-cycled and rebooted (this time loading
> > the vesa driver),
> > > > which brought me up to a 1024x768 desktop rather
> > than 1280x800, at
> > > > which point i browsed over to linux-kvm.org and
> > it worked just
> > > > fine. so it's clearly(?) something with the
> > radeon driver.
> > >
> > > I'm using the radeon driver on a ATI 3650 card
> > (r635) and that site
> > > comes up fine. Does adding "nomodeset" the
> > the kernel line in grub
> > > and using radeon change anything.
> >
> > i'm already using "nomodeset" -- i needed
> > that just to get full
> > (1280x800) res on this laptop using the radeon driver.  so
> > i can get
> > 1280x800 res with the radeon driver, it's just
> > horrifically unreliable
> > and locks up constantly.  since i backed off to vesa at
> > 1024x768, no
> > problems, although i've been testing it for only a few
> > minutes so far.
> >
> > rday
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> Robert,
>
> I have to disagree with you.  On the machine where the computer froze, it too has a radeon card:
>
> http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_808fc0dc-61b4-4f57-a41a-62cdc710058d
>
> I also saw that firefox was crashing the whole machine, but you are too quick to blame radeon, when the problem is that firefox is segfaulting.
>
> If I ran the machine regularly even without nomodeset it worked, just when I clicked on firefox the system became totally unresponsive that I had to manually powerdown the machine.  If I used konqueror on it, I could happily browse and do what I wanted.  I posted on this list:
>
> http://www.nabble.com/complete-crash-when-I-open-firefox-and-get-on-internet-td22846734.html
>
> Got no responses like you did.  Why I don't know?  But I have to let you know that I have a stong feeling that it is not the radeon driver, but firefox itself.  Try using konqueror, does it crash also?  Does it completely freeze the machine?  For me it did not do that, so I can believe that it is not the radeon driver, but something with firefox or other unknown variable here.
>
> Visit the page http://linux-kvm.org with konqueror and see what happens.  Let us know, of course if you are not too busy and have other important things to do.
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio

  however, i'm fighting with another issue as well:

    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495454

in a nutshell, with the radeon driver, if i bring up a gimp (PNG) file
to work on, the instant i try to move that gimp image window, lockup.
as you can see, that has nothing to do with firefox. with the vesa
driver, no problem.

at this point, i'm reasonably convinced it's a radeon driver issue,
but i'm going to leave it to smarter minds to dig through what i've
posted and see what they can find.

rday
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