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Improving/defining test feedback channels



Hey folks,

Thanks to our testers, we get a fair bit of the rawhide install test
reports from users on the list (sorry Antonio, using you as a model
tester ;) ).  I find these reports pretty valuable and they seem like a
good way to get folks engaged in public discussion on the list.  They
also generate bug reports ... which is a good thing [tm].

First, is the practice of documenting these tester feedback reports
documented anywhere?  This seems like a good thing to point people to if
they are interested in helping test rawhide (or a recent Fedora
milestone).  Second, I can't help but think maybe we can improve the
feedback process in general (long-term).

Some initial ideas (I don't think these are new ideas ... just looking
to brainstorm with the group):

     1. Simple ... add some wiki documentation to guide testers in
        providing a formal test summary.  This might include a sample
        template of things to look for (install completed, display
        corruption, etc...).  Along with handy pointers for how to debug
        problems and file quality bug reports.  This documentation can
        grow over time as the mechanism improves.
     2. More complex ... is there some way to gather feedback from
        testers in a more automated or simpler way?  
              * Install testing ... can we provide an installation
                coverage matrix automatically from files submitted by
                testers?  What if testers who volunteered would submit
                kickstart files $somewhere for "processing"?  Could
                those files be used to provide aggregate data on what's
                been tested? 
              * General feedback ... Smolt has already has a concept of
                allowing users to indicate what hardware
                works/doesn't_work/needed_adjustment.  It requires some
                knowledge of what PCI ID corresponds to what device ...
                so perhaps we'd need to step back to a higher level
                (does sound work, how's your video look)?

How do others feel, are there simple improvements to be made for
F-1[23]?  What about larger/longer project ideas to consider?

Thanks,
James

-------- Forwarded Message --------
> From: Antonio Olivares <olivares14031 yahoo com>
> Reply-to: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
> <fedora-test-list redhat com>
> To: fedora-test-list redhat com
> Subject: installed rawhide on an acer aspire one and have some feeback
> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:24:32 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> Dear fellow Rawhiders,
> 
> I have successfully installed rawhide on an Acer Aspire one netbook.  I have encountered several difficulties, but I have overcome some of them.  
> 
> 1)  The netbook had Windows XP and a hidden Restore partition.  I used xfce Livecd from Adam Miller, it resized the XP partition beautifully everything worked except when grub was written the partition that was booted was the restore partition and I overcame it by changing the (hd0,0) to (hd0,1) and I could boot XP again.  Here's how I modified boot/grub/grub.conf
> 
> [olivares acer-aspire-1 ~]$ 
> 
> [root acer-aspire-1 ~]# cat /boot/grub/grub.conf 
> # grub.conf generated by anaconda
> #
> # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
> # NOTICE:  You have a /boot partition.  This means that
> #          all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
> #          root (hd0,2)
> #          kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/mapper/vg_aceraspire1-lv_root
> #          initrd /initrd-version.img
> #boot=/dev/sda
> default=0
> timeout=5
> splashimage=(hd0,2)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
> hiddenmenu
> title Fedora (2.6.31-0.162.rc6.git2.fc12.i686)
> 	root (hd0,2)
> 	kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31-0.162.rc6.git2.fc12.i686 ro root=/dev/mapper/vg_aceraspire1-lv_root acpi=off SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 LANG=en_US.UTF-8 KEYTABLE=us rd_plytheme=charge
> 	initrd /initrd-generic-2.6.31-0.162.rc6.git2.fc12.i686.img
> title Fedora (2.6.31-0.125.rc5.git2.fc12.i686)
> 	root (hd0,2)
> 	kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31-0.125.rc5.git2.fc12.i686 ro root=/dev/mapper/vg_aceraspire1-lv_root acpi=off
> 	initrd /initrd-2.6.31-0.125.rc5.git2.fc12.i686.img
> title windows xp
> 	rootnoverify (hd0,1)
> 	chainloader +1
> title Acer Restore
> 	rootnoverify (hd0,0)
> 	chainloader +1
> 
> 
> 2) Kernel Oops encountered: 
> http://www.kerneloops.org/submitresult.php?number=647557
> 
> 3)  Smolt Profile
> 
> http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_dbc0e3df-fdbf-4462-a0aa-43aadb15a586
> 
> 4)  I have to use boot parameter acpi=off, otherwise when starting up booting hangs and I get immediate kernel panic. 
> 
> 5)  The machine also has trouble shutting down.  I have to press and hold power button so that the machine can shut down properly.  Other than that, I am running rawhide on a netbook :) 
> 
> If anyone has advice/suggestions or has questions.  I'll try my best to answer them accordingly to my experiences with it.  
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Antonio 

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