Announcing Fedora 11 Alpha (blink)

[Shawn Badger]

Let me just clarify my previous email. I would like to see the
Ctrl-Alt-Backspace function in and available for the default behavior.
I like the fact that there will now be an easy way to disable it (there may
have always been, but I just haven't needed it), but the default should
remain enabled.


On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Scott Robbins <scottro at nyc.rr.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 08:22:25PM -0700, Shawn Badger wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:25 PM, John Summerfield <
> debian at herakles.homelinux.org
> > > wrote:
> >
> >     Jesse Keating wrote:
> >
> >
> > ---- snip ---
> >
> >
> >
> >      X Server
> >
> >     The key combination Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to kill the X server has been
> >     disabled by default. To get this behaviour back, add the the line
> >
> >     Option "DontZap" "false"
> >
>
> >
> >     Please make this default to "true." False _might_ be okay in RHEL,
> but I
> >     have my doubts even then. At least the audience is different and the
> >     arguments for "false" a little stronger.
>
> Hrrm, I would think in RH, they really better not do that.  If RHEL is
> aimed at sysadmins, they, of all people will NOT want this idiot
> proofing.   So I would respectfully disagree with Shawn's feeling that
> it might be OK in RH.  It most definitely will NOT.
>
> Believe me, there's enough outcry among sysadmins about the gradual move
> of Fedora towards it being more Windows like all the time.
>
> I say that with respect to the developers, who are caught between the
> proverbial rock and hard place--more and more newcomers venture into
> Linux, and they make strenuous efforts to accomodate such newcomers, but
> in this case, such things continue to drive away those who have been
> RH/Fedora users for years.
>
> I base that not only on what I see on Fedora forums but various other
> technical lists and private correspondence with friends in the field.
>
>
> As the saying goes, it's impossible to idiot proof anything, nature will
> always build a better idiot, but seriously--to put such a
> desktop/newcomer oriented option into an enterprise system seems
> somewhat ill-advised at best.  It's just one more thing for a sysadmin
> to fix when installing on a new server, and sysadmins usually have
> enough to do.
>
> Especially if they have to create an xorg.conf to get that option in
> there.  That's almost adding insult to injury.  :)
>
>
>
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