Announcing Fedora 11 Alpha (blink)

John Summerfield debian at herakles.homelinux.org
Mon Feb 9 14:16:52 UTC 2009


Scott Robbins wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 05:12:00PM +0900, John Summerfield wrote:
>> Scott Robbins wrote:
>>
> 
> 
>>> Believe me, there's enough outcry among sysadmins about the gradual move
>>> of Fedora towards it being more Windows like all the time. 
>>>
>>>
>>> I base that not only on what I see on Fedora forums but various other
>>> technical lists and private correspondence with friends in the field. 
>>>
>> Maybe we should contemplate switching to FreeBSD - that was pretty  
>> unfriendly last I looked:-)
>>
>> Seriously, friendly is fine, but stupid is not.
> 
> Yes, as one fellow said on Fedora forums (about the removal of root
> login in GDM) "Do I hear the sound of training wheels being welded into
> place? 

Oh, so it wasn't me being senile.

So one can install a system with only a root account, and then can't 
logon. Absolutely brrriliant!!. And absolutely pointless when root can 
login at a console!

Gunna take away the consoles next?


> 
> FreeBSD is great, though a recent upgrade broke X for most people.  
> The BSDs and few remaining Linux distributions, give a bit more credit
> to the users.  Not that it's perfect, and the fact that binary upgrades
> are still problematic can cause server problems, but it is decisions
> like this that cause the (usually young and self-proclaimed elite) BSD
> folks to say things like, "Linux is for people who hate Windows.  BSD is
> for those who love Unix."
> 
> Even the BSDs are getting more interested in dealing with newcomers
> (save of course, for Theo).  However, the community is still small
> enough so that changes like this would probably have more input from the
> user community than in a large Fedora/Ubuntu like project. 
> 
> 
> 


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Cheers
John

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