KISS on fp.org

[Jeremy Katz]

On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 05:47 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Mike McGrath wrote:
> > Max Spevack wrote:
> >> On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Max Spevack wrote:
> >>> We need to make it AMAZINGLY EASY for the 90% of the users who are 
> >>> going to show up at fedoraproject.org on release day looking for the 
> >>> x86 Live CD or the x86 Installable DVD.
> >>
> >> I know that spins.fedoraproject.org exists basically to solve this 
> >> very problem.  But from what I understand that isn't quite ready for 
> >> release day, and so we need a stopgap measure.

spins.fedoraproject.org shouldn't really be for the normal case -- it's
more for the "we have way too many choices, let's put the less common
ones somewhere where they're less likely to be confusing to the new user
who just wants 'Fedora'".  And also to give a better way of navigating
all of our options than the large-ish table at
torrent.fedoraproject.org :-)

> > We actually did a great deal of work on making it easier to download 
> > Fedora.  We're down to 2 clicks this time (though you don't see that on 
> > the Fedora 7 page right now)  After clicking on "Get Fedora" they get 
> > this page:
> > 
> > http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/web/en/get-fedora.html
> 
> This looks great. The difference between which ones are CD vs DVD images 
> is now clear. However we seem to have dropped the simple wording of what 
> i386 (which really should be just x86) or x86_64 or PPC means for the 
> non-technical users, Perhaps we should guide them towards x86 arch by 
> default?

It's also missing the fact that there's a PPC Desktop live image.  Also,
the fact that the live images are installable is very important and yet
very non-obvious from this page :(  From what's there, I'd get the
impression that if I'm wanting to install, my only choice is the Install
DVD.

> Also it would be better to call them "GNOME Desktop Live Media" and "KDE 
> Desktop Live Media" and also add in a sentence or reference explaining 
> what a Live Media or Bittorrent is might be appropriate.

It's the Fedora Desktop Live image.  Not Fedora GNOME Live.  We've tried
very hard to make this the case and now we're regressing back to stupid
GNOME vs KDE politics.  If I'm a user who's new to Linux and wanting to
use Fedora, how am I supposed to look at the page and know what to
get?  

Like Max, I'm sorry for bringing this up late in the game, but last week
ended up being a bit nitemare-ish with fixing the new blockers that kept
cropping up and so I didn't really get a chance to sit down and look at
this until now :-/

Jeremy