[Fedora-xen] Goodbye Xen on RH/Fedora?

Pasi Kärkkäinen pasik at iki.fi
Wed Jan 21 11:53:19 UTC 2009


On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 01:40:55PM +0200, Veli-Pekka Kestilä wrote:
> Jan ONDREJ (SAL) wrote:
> >On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 12:04:34PM +0200, Neil Thompson wrote:
> >  
> >>On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:51:07AM +0100, Jan ONDREJ (SAL) wrote:
> >>    
> >>>On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 11:44:35AM +0200, Neil Thompson wrote:
> >>>      
> >>>>On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 08:15:00AM +0000, Evan Lavelle wrote:
> >>>>RHEL (and CentOS) 5.3 has support for Fedora 10 (and above) domUs, and 
> >>>>Fedora 11
> >>>>should have, as well.
> >>>>        
> >>>Just there is at least one critical problem with Fedora 10 DomU and also 
> >>>one
> >>>for Fedora 9 DomU, so Fedora 10 kernels can't run stable. :(
> >>>
> >>>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478414
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>Your problem is with an F8 Dom0...
> >>    
> >
> >Not exactly. On my F8 Dom0 Fedora 10 works well with latest fc8 domU 
> >kernel.
> >Just when trying to boot and run .fc10. PAE or x86_64 kernel, it fails
> >in less than 48 hours.
> >
> >  
> I would really recommend you to change the Dom0 to be CentOS 5.2 or 
> newer, Fedora 8 has been "Dead" about ½-month allready and will not get 
> any updates be it KVM, QEMU or Xen. So the bugs will not be fixed and 
> there will be no security updates for F8. I have some virtual 
> environments running still vith Xen and F7 or F8, but will migrate them 
> soon to CentOS for stability and long term support and I quite much 
> expect them to be still supported 5-years from now.
> 
> Also I don't think kvm will be that different or hard to learn if it 
> becomes to that. It actually has paravirtual network drivers for windows 
> from Qumranet which you can get without extra fee so I think if you are 
> having windows clients it could be way to go in future. For xen you need 
> to pay to Novell for that priviledge.
> 

You can always use "GPLPV" Windows drivers for Xen. They're open source.

> So all in all I think for me this aquisition is good news. I think most 
> problems with xen comes from xensource as it's they only product 
> generating income and for that reason the opensource version seems to 
> get less care than the version you can buy from them. (This is just my 
> opinion so it's not necessarily so)
> 

I think Xensource is putting a lot of effort into opensource Xen.

It's just the dom0/pv_ops mess that's causing problems atm.. that _should_
get fixed in the near future.

-- Pasi




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