[K12OSN] *sigh* FC2 issues

Andrew adfour at mtaonline.net
Sun Aug 22 19:40:09 UTC 2004


David, the servers you just described equal my foreseeable budget til 
retirement. My IT people spend money like water on questionable 
commercial contracts (in my view) but the kind of "what the hell spend a 
few grand" attitude sure doesn't apply to me.
David Trask wrote:

>"Support list for opensource software in schools." <k12osn at redhat.com> on
>Saturday, August 21, 2004 at 5:54 PM +0000 wrote:
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>>Has anyone tried skolelinux 1.0? I am dling now.  It looks lighter than 
>>k12ltsp, which could be useful. The idea of a light core with add-on 
>>modules appeals to me. Any look at freeduc for this sort of thing? I am 
>>not suggesting any is better, but that there are a few ways to look at 
>>an educational thin client/linux  environment.
>>Re the hardware issues..... I had failing hardware on my initial install 
>>of fc1, on my upgrade to fc2 on my personal box, an nforce2. Non-k12ltsp 
>>fedora provided me with these issues...and my by now boring disl.ike of 
>>fedora.
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>First of all, I'm not an advocate of buying pre-built servers.  That being
>said...I did buy my current K12LTSP servers from Daktech....because I had
>the money and I didn't want to frig with it....I had enough on my plate. 
>BUT...what I'm noticing is this.  My servers are very much brand name
>whiteboxes.....all Intel guts...Seagate or IBM SCSI
>HD's....Xeon's....etc....etc.  Dual processors....built in sound (not that
>sound matters on a server)...built in video....one with built-in dual gig
>nics...and one with one 10/100 and one gig nic built-in....so I had an
>Intel gig nic added as well.  I can say that I have had absolutely NO
>hardware related problems with FC1 or FC2.  I've been running both on
>various servers... most are similar to what I've described above and
>....no issues at all.  I'm wondering (and please don't kill me for
>this)....if some folks are dealing with off-brand hardware or too much
>hardware (aka better video cards than necessary in a server....etc.  That
>are causing these issues.  I'm not saying that these issues should be
>overlooked in development or anything like that, but in order to stabilize
>your own environment for the time being....
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>A week ago I was in Exeter, NH USA helping the tech folks for SAU 16
>schools build their new K12LTSP and Samba/LDAP servers along with several
>E-Smith/SME servers.  They bought and built some really nice servers
>(SuperMicro I believe)....but they bought the pieces and assembled the
>servers.  I did notice that the guts were brand name in nature....Intel
>stuff and so forth....I loaded K12LTSP 4.1 based on FC2 with no issues at
>all.  Steve Kossakoski (on this list) can provide more detail as he is the
>Assistant Superintendent in charge of technology for that district and a
>big linux advocate.  The servers were very impressive and very inexpensive
>considering what they got.  Speed wise....WOW!  Very slick!  
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>Lastly....would it be possible to package a version of K12LTSP 4.1 based
>on the Linus kernel as opposed to the Redhat influenced kernel?  Then we
>could do some head to head testing...OR if someone could post a thorough
>HOW-TO on the wiki or something as to how to acquire and compile and thus
>use the Linus kernel on our K12LTSP 4.1 systems (make very thorough as
>many of us have never compiled a kernel...myself included and have no idea
>where to start....don't assume we know ANYTHING)  ;-)  That's my $.02
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>PS.  School starts in a little over a week....that's when my new FC2 based
>Samba-LDAP server and K12LTSP 4.1 server will begin to get a real
>workout....I'll keep ya'll posted...wish me luck!  (picture David with
>fingers crossed and furiously knocking on wood)  ;-)
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>David N. Trask
>Technology Teacher/Coordinator
>Vassalboro Community School
>dtrask at vcs.u52.k12.me.us
>(207)923-3100
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