[K12OSN] Quad 450's as K12 Server?

[Jim Kronebusch]

I have a quad 450 Zeon machine with 1GB of RAM and a quad 550 Zeon with
2GB of RAM and am very happy with them.  The first is a Web/Email Server
for 800 users, the second running WBEL as Web/File Server with about 200
users.  The SCSI backplane is extremely handy for RAID setups and hot
swap to keep the server running.  If these things are free I wouldn't
send them down the road if I were you.  Go to eBay and search for cheap
SCSI's and load them up to be rock solid file servers.  File serving
isn't very CPU intensive and the RAID will work awesome.  Otherwise I
would love to have the 3 server shipped here, I'll put them to use
immediately, and there isn't a laugh after that.  Were are you located?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com 
> [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Jason Neiffer
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 10:05 PM
> To: 'Support list for opensource software in schools.'
> Subject: RE: [K12OSN] Quad 450's as K12 Server?
> 
> 
> Well, for that matter...how much to ship to Montana?  He, he...
> 
> Jason
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com 
> [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Bert Rolston
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 8:34 PM
> To: Support list for opensource software in schools.
> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Quad 450's as K12 Server?
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> How much to ship them to NZ? :-)
> 
> Just joking.
> 
> I can get similar specced equipment here at about the same $NZ rate.
> 
> Cheers,
> Bert
> 
> On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 13:55, John Baillie wrote:
> > Thanks for the input everyone -
> > 
> > We'll probably just pass on accepting the donation or maybe 
> take one 
> > and use it for a file server but then again they are big and noisy.
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 15:01, k12osn-request at redhat.com wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Message: 6
> > > Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:25:06 -0500
> > > From: Tom Brown <tbrown at michiana.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Quad 450's as K12 Server?
> > > To: "Support list for opensource software in schools."
> > > 	<k12osn at redhat.com>
> > > Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20040510111115.02a1add0 at michiana.org>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> > > 
> > > At 08:50 AM 5/10/04 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 08:26, Shawn Austin wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > If you do a benchmark on a 1.8GHz machine, and the 
> quad 450, you
> will
> > > > > find that the quad 450 does not even rank in the same 
> ball park.
> You
> > > > > also must consider that the ram that is in such a old machine 
> > > > > will
> not
> > > > > be anywhere as quick as a modern machine would have.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >They probably would make very good file servers to hold home or 
> > > >shared directories if the existing drives are big enough. File 
> > > >service is not as CPU intensive as application service and you 
> > > >could take advantage of the RAID and hot-swap backplane.
> > > 
> > > I want to amplify Mike's advice.
> > > 
> > > Free Geek Michiana received two donated multi-cpu Compaq servers. 
> > > They
> are 
> > > fine for file, print, web service but terrible for boot and 
> > > application
> > > service. Additional memory is very expensive as the specs 
> are high and
> chip 
> > > volumes are low. So we never upgraded the RAM which limits the 
> > > boxes'
> > > usefulness. The servers are also very loud -- we 
> nicknamed them the 
> > > Turbines. Great for heating small rooms. They are bullet proof, 
> > > figuratively. K12LTSP loaded on the servers without a 
> problem. Debian 
> > > stable had difficulties which were resolved be upgrading to Debian
> testing.
> > > 
> > > Tom
> > 
> > 
> > 
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