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Re: [K12OSN] books (off topic maybe)

I second the Safari bookshelf and Marcel Gagne books.

I have found the IBM developer network tutorials very weel written too, the Linux LPI certification (101 parts 1 to 4 & 102 parts 1 to 4) tutorials are a good place to start. Its free, but you have to register to actually download, available in PDF or html.




Eric Pingel wrote:

Try safari.oreilly.com. It is a great resource for all oreilly books and
texts from other publishers. 14.95 a month gets you 10 slots on your
"bookshelf". I am a book hound and have seriously cut down on my
spending. Barnes&Noble / Borders love me.

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  1. Re: books (off topic maybe) (Petre Scheie)
  2. Re: Simple mail relay (Les Mikesell)
  3. Video issue 3dlabs Permedia card (Shane Stafford)
  4. Re: sshvnc tools (Les Mikesell)


Message: 1
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 09:45:34 -0500
From: Petre Scheie <petre maltzen net>
Subject: Re: [K12OSN] books (off topic maybe)
To: "Support list for opensource software in schools."
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Marcel Gagne has written a few books that I think are pretty good.  His
System Administration" is a decent general purpose book. He's got a new
out--I forget the title--that seems to be getting decent reviews. OTOH, I
own at
least 20 O'Reilly books, and more than that in non-O'Reilly books because
rarely found one book on a subject that covers everything I want.


Access Systems wrote:

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, Martin Woolley wrote:

On Friday 15 Oct 2004 12:51 pm, Mark Gumprecht wrote:

I, for one, am new to linux and basically have enough knowledge to be
dangerous. I've jumped in by using only linux on my work machine, no
matter how long it takes to figure it out. Are there any really good
books to help out newbies? I have checked out many, but they seem to be

A general linux book is a jolly fine investment, the fatter the better.
I have The Complete Reference: Linux Fourth Edition by Richard Peterson
published by Osborne ISBN 0-07-212940-9, which covers RH7 (amongst
and includes in it a RH7 CD (only one though). You could have trouble

this book is so far over the head of the average newbie as to be more
confusing than it is worth.  I think I am in the same position and have
searched high and low, and spent hundreds of dollars on worthless books,
they are either too basic (linux for dummies) or like the "Complete
Reference so over the head of the mid line user.

the bookss that have remained on the front of my shelf over the computer

"linux Power Tools" Roderick Smith publish by Sybex

.  still advanced but the step by step instructions are followable even
if you don't understand what your doing.

an oldie but still a goodie

"Red Hat Linux, fast and easy" C & C Witherspoon pub by Prima tech

now a good book but it only covers using the K desktop is

"Linux in the Workplace" Linux Journal Press, pub by No Starch

now for open office org

"OpenOffice.org Resource kit" is the kind of book I would like to see
all of linux, it is complete and fairly comprehensive without being over
your head, but it only covers Open Office

good luck I am still looking for that book for the rest of us too.



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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 09:53:06 -0500
From: Les Mikesell <les futuresource com>
Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Simple mail relay
To: "Support list for opensource software in schools."
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On Fri, 2004-10-15 at 06:42, Dimitri Yioulos wrote:

I have hylafax running on one of my servers, and it works very well.
I’d like hylafax to notify me when a fax is successfully sent or
received. My issue (and this would apply to other situations) is
that, while I have sendmail installed on the same box, it seems like
overkill to use it for this one simple task. Is there a “lighter�
relay agent (or is that MTA?), which would relay the fax info. to our
actual mail (also sendmail) server?

For non-GUI apps, you can generally leave the allocation of resources
up to the Linux kernel which does a very good job of it.  That is, even
though sendmail is a big program, it won't consume much of your
machine's resources when its only activity is periodically scanning
your empty queue.  Unused parts of the program will either never be
loaded or will be paged back out if something else needs the memory.
And when you do have a job for it, using an old and well-tuned program
is likely to be more efficient than some recent hack re-write.

You can't take quite the same approach with GUI programs because they
tend to be much bigger when they drag in the dozens of different
toolkits and shared libraries that each uses.

 Les Mikesell
  les futuresource com


Message: 3
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:17:34 -0400
From: "Shane Stafford" <staffords glenburn net>
Subject: [K12OSN] Video issue 3dlabs Permedia card
To: "Support list for opensource software in schools."
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no luck in getting this one to work and I have about 7 of these machines.
Card appears to be a 8mb  3DLabs Accel Permedia 2V

any ideas about what to put in lts.conf

thanks in advance

Shane Stafford, MCSE, MCT
Director Information Services Glenburn School and Town
Educational System Integrator/Network Engineer
S & B Consulting


Message: 4
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:33:42 -0500
From: Les Mikesell <les futuresource com>
Subject: Re: [K12OSN] sshvnc tools
To: "Support list for opensource software in schools."
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On Fri, 2004-10-15 at 08:08, Petre Scheie wrote:

I don't know if it would help you or not, but you might try running

ssh -L 3700:ltspserver:5900 ltspserver

from the remote site to your ltsp server (ltspserver), and then on the
client run vncviewer and point it at localhost:3700. This will run your
traffic through the SSH tunnel created in the first step. Using sshvnc
does all
this for you automatically, as others have pointed out. But trying this
tell you something about where your problem is depending on whether it
works or not.

Vncviewer will do the grunge work of setting up the ssh tunnel
for you if you use the -via option:
vncviewer -via ltspserver localhost
(the ssh server specified doesn't have to be the same as the
vnc target as long as it can reach it).  Be sure you are using
the correct name for the outside interface of the ssh server
and the name or IP used on the inside for the vncserver if they
are different.

 Les Mikesell
  les futuresource com


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