[K12OSN] books (off topic maybe)

Steve James sj at redpumas.com
Fri Oct 15 23:20:17 UTC 2004


I second the Safari bookshelf and Marcel Gagne books.

I have found the IBM developer network tutorials very weel written too, 
the Linux LPI certification (101 parts 1 to 4 & 102 parts 1 to 4) 
tutorials are a good place to start. Its free, but you have to register 
to actually download, available in PDF or html.

http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/views/linux/tutorials.jsp

http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/newto/

Steve

Eric Pingel wrote:

>Try safari.oreilly.com.  It is a great resource for all oreilly books and
>texts from other publishers.  14.95 a month gets you 10 slots on your
>"bookshelf".  I am a book hound and have seriously cut down on my
>spending.  Barnes&Noble / Borders love me.
>  
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>>Message: 1
>>Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 09:45:34 -0500
>>From: Petre Scheie <petre at maltzen.net>
>>Subject: Re: [K12OSN] books (off topic maybe)
>>To: "Support list for opensource software in schools."
>>	<k12osn at redhat.com>
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>>Marcel Gagne has written a few books that I think are pretty good.  His
>>"Linux
>>System Administration" is a decent general purpose book. He's got a new
>>one
>>out--I forget the title--that seems to be getting decent reviews. OTOH, I
>>own at
>>least 20 O'Reilly books, and more than that in non-O'Reilly books because
>>I've
>>rarely found one book on a subject that covers everything I want.
>>
>>Petre
>>
>>Access Systems wrote:
>>    
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>>>On Fri, 15 Oct 2004, Martin Woolley wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>On Friday 15 Oct 2004 12:51 pm, Mark Gumprecht wrote:
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>I, for one, am new to linux and basically have enough knowledge to be
>>>>>dangerous. I've jumped in by using only linux on my work machine, no
>>>>>matter how long it takes to figure it out. Are there any really good
>>>>>books to help out newbies? I have checked out many, but they seem to be
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>A general linux book is a jolly fine investment, the fatter the better.
>>>>I have The Complete Reference: Linux Fourth Edition by Richard Peterson
>>>>published by Osborne ISBN 0-07-212940-9, which covers RH7 (amongst
>>>>others)
>>>>and includes in it a RH7 CD (only one though).  You could have trouble
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>this book is so far over the head of the average newbie as to be more
>>>confusing than it is worth.  I think I am in the same position and have
>>>searched high and low, and spent hundreds of dollars on worthless books,
>>>they are either too basic (linux for dummies) or like the "Complete
>>>Reference so over the head of the mid line user.
>>>
>>>the bookss that have remained on the front of my shelf over the computer
>>>are
>>>
>>>"linux Power Tools" Roderick Smith  publish by Sybex
>>>
>>> .  still advanced but the step by step instructions are followable even
>>>if you don't understand what your doing.
>>>
>>>an oldie but still a goodie
>>>
>>>"Red Hat Linux, fast and easy"  C & C Witherspoon  pub  by Prima tech
>>>
>>>now a good book but it only covers using the K desktop is
>>>
>>>"Linux in the Workplace"  Linux Journal Press, pub by No Starch
>>>
>>>now for open office org
>>>
>>>"OpenOffice.org Resource kit" is the kind of book I would like to see
>>>for
>>>all of linux, it is complete and fairly comprehensive without being over
>>>your head, but it only covers Open Office
>>>
>>>good luck I am still looking for that book for the rest of us too.
>>>
>>>Bob
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>>Message: 2
>>Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 09:53:06 -0500
>>From: Les Mikesell <les at futuresource.com>
>>Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Simple mail relay
>>To: "Support list for opensource software in schools."
>>	<k12osn at redhat.com>
>>Message-ID: <1097851985.10629.22.camel at moola.futuresource.com>
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>>On Fri, 2004-10-15 at 06:42, Dimitri Yioulos wrote:
>>
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>>>I have hylafax running on one of my servers, and it works very well.
>>>I’d like hylafax to notify me when a fax is successfully sent or
>>>received.  My issue (and this would apply to other situations) is
>>>that, while I have sendmail installed on the same box, it seems like
>>>overkill to use it for this one simple task.  Is there a “lighter”
>>>relay agent (or is that MTA?), which would relay the fax info. to our
>>>actual mail (also sendmail) server?
>>>      
>>>
>>For non-GUI apps, you can generally leave the allocation of resources
>>up to the Linux kernel which does a very good job of it.  That is, even
>>though sendmail is a big program, it won't consume much of your
>>machine's resources when its only activity is periodically scanning
>>your empty queue.  Unused parts of the program will either never be
>>loaded or will be paged back out if something else needs the memory.
>>And when you do have a job for it, using an old and well-tuned program
>>is likely to be more efficient than some recent hack re-write.
>>
>>You can't take quite the same approach with GUI programs because they
>>tend to be much bigger when they drag in the dozens of different
>>toolkits and shared libraries that each uses.
>>
>>---
>>  Les Mikesell
>>   les at futuresource.com
>>
>>
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>>Message: 3
>>Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:17:34 -0400
>>From: "Shane Stafford" <staffords at glenburn.net>
>>Subject: [K12OSN] Video issue 3dlabs Permedia card
>>To: "Support list for opensource software in schools."
>>	<k12osn at redhat.com>
>>Cc: <k12osn at redhat.com>
>>Message-ID: <fc.000f6cb8016c3f363b9aca008affcaf5.16c3f4b at hermon.net>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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>>no luck in getting this one to work and I have about 7 of these machines.
>>Card appears to be a 8mb  3DLabs Accel Permedia 2V
>>
>>any ideas about what to put in lts.conf
>>
>>thanks in advance
>>Shane
>>
>>Shane Stafford, MCSE, MCT
>>Director Information Services Glenburn School and Town
>>Educational System Integrator/Network Engineer
>>S & B Consulting
>>
>>
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>>Message: 4
>>Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:33:42 -0500
>>From: Les Mikesell <les at futuresource.com>
>>Subject: Re: [K12OSN] sshvnc tools
>>To: "Support list for opensource software in schools."
>>	<k12osn at redhat.com>
>>Message-ID: <1097854422.10629.42.camel at moola.futuresource.com>
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>>On Fri, 2004-10-15 at 08:08, Petre Scheie wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>I don't know if it would help you or not, but you might try running
>>>
>>>ssh -L 3700:ltspserver:5900 ltspserver
>>>
>>>from the remote site to your ltsp server (ltspserver), and then on the
>>>remote
>>>client run vncviewer and point it at localhost:3700.  This will run your
>>>vnc
>>>traffic through the SSH tunnel created in the first step.  Using sshvnc
>>>does all
>>>this for you automatically, as others have pointed out.  But trying this
>>>might
>>>tell you something about where your problem is depending on whether it
>>>works or not.
>>>      
>>>
>>Vncviewer will do the grunge work of setting up the ssh tunnel
>>for you if you use the -via option:
>>vncviewer -via ltspserver localhost
>>(the ssh server specified doesn't have to be the same as the
>>vnc target as long as it can reach it).  Be sure you are using
>>the correct name for the outside interface of the ssh server
>>and the name or IP used on the inside for the vncserver if they
>>are different.
>>
>>---
>>  Les Mikesell
>>   les at futuresource.com
>>
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