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Re: [K12OSN] Definitive guide to editing gnome menus?



Searching google, I came up with this:

http://www.wse.jhu.edu/newtnotes/main_file.php/sysadmin/55/

The author mentions using the default-modules.conf.with-menu-editing file; there is no such file on my RH8/K12ltsp 3.0.1 system, but there is on my FC1/K12ltsp 4.0.1 system. But I agree: I don't know whether to blame RH or the Gnome folks, but the fact that there isn't an easily accessible (by root only, perhaps) simple method for modifying the menus is ridiculous.

HTH

Petre

Lewis Holcroft wrote:
Debbie,

I spent a great deal of time trying to solve the same problem. So I'm hoping to see the solution also. In the end I switched to IceWM. Which I like a great deal for its ease of use.

Lewis

On Oct 27, 2004, at 3:21 AM, Debbie Schiel wrote:

Hi Bimal, and thanks for your tips. I gave them a go (step by step, no errors produced) but they have had no effect.
You say that it works for redhat linux 9.0 with gnome2.
I am using Fedora Core 2 with whatever came as default with k12ltsp 4.1.0 - is that the same as your setup? If it is then I must be doing something wrong and I will try it again, otherwise it means that this method doesn't work with K12ltsp 4.1.0.


Thanks again,

Debbie

bimal pandit wrote:

try the attached file's method, i did this and is working perfectly!!
bimal
On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 17:14, Debbie Schiel wrote:

Hi all,

Does anyone have *the* guide to editing the 'start menu'?

I'm using the k12ltsp 4.1.0 install (Fedora Core 2) and the default out-of-the-box session (gnome??).

I have tried the methods described on the Gnome.org/learn site, and followed suggestions from previous posts in k12osn, without luck. I have somehow been able to *add* to the menu - but they're duplicates of what is already there... I don't want to delete the apps, just make them unavailable to groups/users.

Going on my past experiences, I reckon I would probably get there in the end, but tips and advice could make my 'journey' a lot shorter. (They're also very encouraging!)

Thanks,

Debbie


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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<VFolderInfo>
  <!-- where desktop files are supposed to live -->
 <MergeDir>/usr/share/applications</MergeDir>

 <!-- For now, load up the legacy .desktop trees -->
 <MergeDir>/etc/X11/applnk</MergeDir>
 <MergeDir>/usr/share/gnome/apps</MergeDir>
 <MergeDir>/usr/share/applnk</MergeDir>

 <!-- Control panel dirs -->
 <MergeDir>/usr/share/control-center-2.0/capplets/</MergeDir>
 <MergeDir>/usr/share/gnome/capplets/</MergeDir>

<DesktopDir>/usr/share/desktop-menu-files</DesktopDir>


<!-- Root folder --> <Folder> <Name>Applications</Name> <Desktop>Applications.directory</Desktop> <Exclude>gnome-search-tool.desktop</Exclude> <Exclude>gnome-network-scheme.desktop</Exclude>

   <Query>
     <And>
       <Keyword>Core</Keyword>
    <Not>
      <Keyword>Merged</Keyword>
       </Not>
     </And>
   </Query>


<!-- Internet --> <Folder> <Name>Internet</Name> <Desktop>Internet.directory</Desktop> <Exclude>redhat-web.desktop</Exclude> <Exclude>net-gaim.desktop</Exclude> <Exclude>redhat-gnomemeeting.desktop</Exclude> <Query> <And> <Keyword>X-Red-Hat-Base</Keyword> <Keyword>Application</Keyword> <Keyword>Network</Keyword> </And> </Query> <DontShowIfEmpty/> </Folder>


<!-- MediaPlayer --> <Folder> <Name>MediaPlayer</Name> <Desktop>MediaPlayer.directory</Desktop> <Include>mediaplayer.desktop</Include> <DontShowIfEmpty/> </Folder>

<!-- Office -->
   <Folder>
     <Name>Office</Name>
     <Desktop>Office.directory</Desktop>
     <Exclude>redhat-drawing.desktop</Exclude>
     <Exclude>redhat-diagrams.desktop</Exclude>
     <Exclude>redhat-math.desktop</Exclude>
     <Exclude>openoffice-printeradmin.desktop</Exclude>
     <Exclude>codefactory-mrproject.desktop</Exclude>
     <Query>
    <And>
         <Keyword>X-Red-Hat-Base</Keyword>
      <Keyword>Application</Keyword>
      <Or>
       <Keyword>Office</Keyword>
<!--        <Keyword>Spreadsheet</Keyword>
        <Keyword>WordProcessor</Keyword>  -->
      </Or>           </And>
     </Query>
    <DontShowIfEmpty/>
   </Folder>

<!-- Other -->
<Folder>
<Name>Other</Name>
<Desktop>Other.directory</Desktop>
<OnlyUnallocated/>
<Query>
<And>
<Keyword>Application</Keyword>
<Not>
<Or>
<Keyword>Settings</Keyword>
<Keyword>X-Red-Hat-Base-Only</Keyword>
<Keyword>X-Red-Hat-Base</Keyword>
</Or>
</Not>
</And>
</Query>
<DontShowIfEmpty/>
</Folder>
</Folder> <!-- All Applications -->



</VFolderInfo>



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This is the customization process for a user "user1" in gnome environment

i took help from "http://www.bluethingy.com/linux/rh8menu.html"; site a lot of thanks to
mknepher bluethingy com(in fact his name was not there!!)


i am using redhat linux 9.0 with gnome2

Why?
----
In fact i had installed LTSP server and wanted that the gnome desktop should be customized per user, as i searched the net and got a few valuable links(like above) which helped me to get my work done, so i thought to give back "The NET Community" so that they can get releif while doing the same task.



How I did This? ---------------

[root localhost root]# useradd user1

[root localhost root]# passwd ******
< do confirmation >

[root localhost root]# cd /home/user1/.gnome2

NOTE:- IN CASE YOU DON'T GET THIS DIRECTORY DON'T GET PANICKED, AS THIS MEANS YOU DID'NT LOGGED IN AS THIS USER SO JUST LOGIN AS THIS USER(user1) ONCE AND THIS AND OTHER DIRECTORIES WILL GET CREATED AUTOMATICALLY!!

[root localhost .gnome2]# mkdir -p vfolders/applications

[root localhost .gnome2]# cd vfolders

[root localhost vfolders]# cp /etc/X11/desktop-menus/applications.menu applications.vfolder-info

NOTE:- this is "applications.vfolder-info" and NOT "applications.vfolders-info"
[root localhost vfolders]# cd applications


[root localhost applications]# cp /usr/share/applications/*.desktop .

NOTE:- i.e copy "/usr/share/applications/*.desktop" in this(applications) directory

[root localhost applications]# cd ..

[root localhost vfolders]# vi applications.vfolder-info

AND EDIT AS PER YOUR REQUIREMENT!!

HERE I AM GIVING MY CUSTOMIZED ENTRIES WHICH REDUCED THE DESKTOP MENU TO A GREAT EXTANT!!

CONTENTS OF "applications.vfolder-info"

************************* YOU CAN CUT AND PASTE BELOW GIVEN ENTRIES ******************************

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<VFolderInfo>    <!-- where desktop files are supposed to live -->
 <MergeDir>/usr/share/applications</MergeDir>

 <!-- For now, load up the legacy .desktop trees -->
 <MergeDir>/etc/X11/applnk</MergeDir>
 <MergeDir>/usr/share/gnome/apps</MergeDir>
 <MergeDir>/usr/share/applnk</MergeDir>

 <!-- Control panel dirs -->
 <MergeDir>/usr/share/control-center-2.0/capplets/</MergeDir>
 <MergeDir>/usr/share/gnome/capplets/</MergeDir>

<DesktopDir>/usr/share/desktop-menu-files</DesktopDir>


<!-- Root folder --> <Folder> <Name>Applications</Name> <Desktop>Applications.directory</Desktop> <Exclude>gnome-search-tool.desktop</Exclude> <Exclude>gnome-network-scheme.desktop</Exclude>

   <Query>
     <And>
       <Keyword>Core</Keyword>
    <Not>
      <Keyword>Merged</Keyword>
       </Not>
     </And>
   </Query>


<!-- Internet --> <Folder> <Name>Internet</Name> <Desktop>Internet.directory</Desktop> <Exclude>redhat-web.desktop</Exclude> <Exclude>net-gaim.desktop</Exclude> <Exclude>redhat-gnomemeeting.desktop</Exclude> <Query> <And> <Keyword>X-Red-Hat-Base</Keyword> <Keyword>Application</Keyword> <Keyword>Network</Keyword> </And> </Query> <DontShowIfEmpty/> </Folder>

<!-- Office -->
   <Folder>
     <Name>Office</Name>
     <Desktop>Office.directory</Desktop>
     <Exclude>redhat-drawing.desktop</Exclude>
     <Exclude>redhat-diagrams.desktop</Exclude>
     <Exclude>redhat-math.desktop</Exclude>
     <Exclude>openoffice-printeradmin.desktop</Exclude>
     <Exclude>codefactory-mrproject.desktop</Exclude>
     <Query>
    <And>
         <Keyword>X-Red-Hat-Base</Keyword>
      <Keyword>Application</Keyword>
      <Or>
       <Keyword>Office</Keyword>
<!--        <Keyword>Spreadsheet</Keyword>
        <Keyword>WordProcessor</Keyword>  -->
      </Or>           </And>
     </Query>
    <DontShowIfEmpty/>
   </Folder>

<!-- Graphics -->
   <Folder>
     <Name>Graphics</Name>
     <Desktop>Graphics.directory</Desktop>
     <Include>net-xpdf.desktop</Include>
       <DontShowIfEmpty/>
     </Folder>

<!-- Other -->
<Folder>
<Name>Other</Name>
<Desktop>Other.directory</Desktop>
<OnlyUnallocated/>
<Query>
<And>
<Keyword>Application</Keyword>
<Not>
<Or>
<Keyword>Settings</Keyword>
<Keyword>X-Red-Hat-Base-Only</Keyword>
<Keyword>X-Red-Hat-Base</Keyword>
</Or>
</Not>
</And>
</Query>
<DontShowIfEmpty/>
</Folder>
</Folder> <!-- All Applications -->



</VFolderInfo>


************************** YOU CAN CUT AND PASTE ABOVE ENTRIES *******************************

one should also remember that there may be some link file(s) (of additionally installed packages) , so you need to create that link accordingly as i did :-

ln -s /usr/share/desktop-menu-patches/redhat-drawing.desktop /home/user1/.gnome2/vfolders/applications/redhat-drawing.desktop
ln -s /usr/share/desktop-menu-patches/redhat-email.desktop /home/user1/.gnome2/vfolders/applications/redhat-email.desktop ln -s /usr/share/desktop-menu-patches/redhat-math.desktop /home/user1/.gnome2/vfolders/applications/redhat-math.desktop
ln -s /usr/share/desktop-menu-patches/redhat-presentations.desktop /home/user1/.gnome2/vfolders/applications/redhat- presentations.desktop
ln -s /usr/share/desktop-menu-patches/redhat-spreadsheet.desktop /home/user1/.gnome2/vfolders/applications/redhat-spreadsheet.desktop
ln -s /usr/share/desktop-menu-patches/redhat-web.desktop /home/user1/.gnome2/vfolders/applications/redhat-web.desktop
ln -s /usr/share/desktop-menu-patches/redhat-word-processor.desktop /home/user1/.gnome2/vfolders/applications/redhat-word- processor.desktop



in case you may not be knowing the name of the menu/submenu as to which you want to exclude, as the actual name may be different to the what you are getting in the menu e.g.


in the main menu under "internet" menu you will see "Mozilla Web Browser" while in applications directory(that you created) you wont find any thing, even containing this name(Mozilla) so the way out is just hover your curser on that menu and see what is the "comment" it is showing to you as in this example, when you hover the curser over "Mozilla Web Browser" you will get "Browse the internet" message/comment so just do

[root localhost applications]# grep "Browse the Internet" *
this will give you

redhat-web.desktop:Comment=Browse the Internet

so you have to exclude "redhat-web.desktop"

similarly can search and include/exclude others!!

So far i hope this will help atleast one person in this world !!
well i am not a programmer and XML is a black box for me so no help in this matter, i am just a linux enthusiast!!


Bimal Pandit



NOTE:-

pls mail me in case someone need further help and if i can i will!!

here are my email id's :- bimalp indoasian com, hello_bee rediffmail com, hello_bee indiatimes com


other useful link http://gnome.org/learn/



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HOW ACTUALLY I FOUND THIS AND COPIED AND EDITED THESE !!
--------------------------------------------------------

[root cluster01 vfolders]# locate Office.directory

/usr/share/desktop-menu-files/Office.directory
/usr/share/gnome/vfolders/Office.directory

[root cluster01 vfolders]# cp /usr/share/desktop-menu-files/Office.directory /usr/share/desktop-menu-files/MediaPlayer.directory

[root cluster01 vfolders]# vi /usr/share/desktop-menu-files/MediaPlayer.directory

[root cluster01 vfolders]# cp /usr/share/desktop-menu-files/MediaPlayer.directory /usr/share/gnome/vfolders/
===================================================================== =============================


[root cluster01 applications]# vi mediaplayer.desktop

[Desktop Entry]
Name=Media Player
Encoding=UTF-8
Comment=play your audio files
Exec=/usr/bin/xmms
Terminal=0
Type=Application
Icon=gnome-audio2.png
Categories=Application;Network;X-Red-Hat-Extras;


[root cluster01 applications]# cd ..


[root cluster01 applications]# vi applications.vfolder-info

<!-- MediaPlayer -->
<Folder>
     <Name>MediaPlayer</Name>
     <Desktop>MediaPlayer.directory</Desktop>
     <Include>mediaplayer.desktop</Include>
    <DontShowIfEmpty/>
   </Folder>

[root cluster01 applications]# vi /usr/share/desktop-menu-files/MediaPlayer.directory

[Desktop Entry]
Name=MediaPlayer
Comment=Play your Audiio files
Icon=gnome-audio2.png
Type=Directory


[root cluster01 applications]# cp /usr/share/desktop-menu-files/MediaPlayer.directory /usr/share/gnome/vfolders/


NOTE:- ACTUALLY ALL THE ICONS ARE LOCATED AT "/user/share/pixmaps/*.png" SO YOU NEED TO CHOOSE YOUR ICON AND JUST PUT ITS NAME, FOR SHORTCUT JUST CLICK RIGHT BUTTON OF YOUR MOUSE ON DESKTOP AREA AND SELECT "new launcher" THEN CLICK ON "no icon" THIS WILL GIVE A LIST OF ALL ICONS WITH THEIR PICTURES!!

===================================================================== =============================

FIRST MOVE TO "vfolders" DIRECTORY AND EDIT THIS

[root cluster01 vfolders]# vi applications.vfolder-info

<!-- Internet -->
   <Folder>
     <Name>Internet</Name>
     <Desktop>Internet.directory</Desktop>
     <Include>mozilla-mail-client.desktop</Include>
     <Exclude>redhat-web.desktop</Exclude>
     <Exclude>redhat-gnomemeeting.desktop</Exclude>
     <Query>
       <And>
         <Keyword>X-Red-Hat-Base</Keyword>
         <Keyword>Application</Keyword>
         <Keyword>Network</Keyword>
       </And>
     </Query>
     <DontShowIfEmpty/>
   </Folder>


[root cluster01 vfolders]# cd applications


[root cluster01 applications]# vi mozilla-mail-client.desktop

[Desktop Entry]
Name=Mozill Mail
Encoding=UTF-8
Comment=mozilla mail client
Exec=/usr/bin/mozilla -mail
Terminal=0
Type=Application
Icon=gnome-balsa2.png
Categories=Application;Network;X-Red-Hat-Extras;


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