[K12OSN] synaptic and K12LSTP repositories

Gustav J Kramer gj.kramer at planet.nl
Mon Aug 22 21:18:45 UTC 2005


Check out yumex.  With K12LTSP 4.4 using the default gnome desktop it
can be found at "Applications -> System Tools -> Yum Extender".  Works a
treat!

- gustav

On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 08:25 -0500, Petre Scheie wrote:
> 
> Petre Scheie wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Eric Harrison wrote:
> > 
> >> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005, Mike Heins wrote:
> >>
> >>> Quoting Les Mikesell (les at futuresource.com):
> >>>
> >>>> On Sun, 2005-08-21 at 13:22, Mike Heins wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> In practice, webmin seems to be pretty secure and there are a lot
> >>>>> of people using it successfully. I will admit to placing it a couple
> >>>>> of places where the system administrators don't have strong Linux
> >>>>> knowledge. But I don't think it is the right way to run a railroad
> >>>>> if you have an alternative.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Unfortunately, 'the alternative' is years of experience...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I didn't mean to try and sound like I was talking from the top
> >>> of a mountain, not at all. Though I have the years of experience,
> >>> I recognize that not everyone does.
> >>>
> >>> I was just explaining why I think it is not configured into
> >>> k12ltsp by default.
> >>>
> >>
> >> You missed the main reason Webmin is not installed by default...
> >>
> >> The official Webmin packages copy the root password from /etc/passwd
> >> (or /etc/shadow) when the package is installed. During the process
> >> of installing the operating system, the root password is empty.
> >> If Webmin is installed as part of the OS, it ends up with root
> >> rights and no password. From a security perspective, the results
> >> are non-optimal ;-)
> >>
> >> The two choices were to maintain a customized Webmin package that
> >> works around this issue or to have an option to install Webmin
> >> after the install was complete. Maintaining customized packages
> >> can put a huge drag on K12LTSP development, thus the post-install
> >> option was quite attractive.
> >>
> >> -Eric
> >>
> > And I must say the post-install option worked like a champ.  Thanks for 
> > building that option, Eric.
> > 
> > Petre
> > 
> Does MESD maintain apt repositories?  Going back to my original question, is there a 
> reason why Webmin can't be installed via Syanptic?  Well, yes, the reason is that 
> Synaptic comes configured with the stock FC repositories.  My real question is, if not 
> Synaptic, what do people use to give novices a grahpical tool for seeing what packages 
> are available and what packages they have installed, etc.  (Perhaps Webmin is a bad 
> choice for an example because its security implications have forced the workaround that 
> Eric has created.)  Is there a gui for yum?
> 
> Petre
> 
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