[K12OSN] need bootrom/etherboot for Compaq net1/33s
Petre Scheie
petre at maltzen.net
Thu Mar 16 19:31:11 UTC 2006
Are the IRQ (interrupt) and IO settings on the card set the same as what the boot floppy
expects? I recall having to dink around with the interrupt settings on the card I have
to get it to work. And I think the 3c509 used a software configuration tool to set
those (instead of jumpers). If you need the software utility, I think I might still
have a copy at home. Or if you're impatient, you can go to
http://pigtail.net/LRP/printsrv/ (which is a how-to on using old PCs and ISA NICs to
build a print server) and follow the link for the 'detective disk' for the 3c509, where
you'll find a file that you can dd to a floppy and then boot from that floppy into the
config utility for the card.
Petre
john wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Sadly I am not having much luck getting this going. The BIOS on the
> Compaq Net1/33S doesn't recognize the 3COM 3C509 (which I sort of
> expected since I assume ISA doesn't do PnP), and there doesn't appear
> to be a way to assign it an I/O address and an interupt. I don't even
> get link on the hub when I plug it in.
>
> In the hope that the Etherboot CD could provide enough information to
> get me going I tried the 3c509 image from a boot floppy but the
> message I got was:
>
> Probing PCI nic
> pci_init: no Bios32 detected
>
> Probing ISA nic
> [3x509]
> <sleep>
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thank you for sticking with me on this.
>
> John
>
> On 3/16/06, john <lists.john at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Petre!
>>
>> The clarification and advice was very helpful.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On 3/16/06, Petre Scheie <petre at maltzen.net> wrote:
>>> I think Tim was trying to say that the 3c515 is the only supported ISA 10/100mb card,
>>> since 100mb to the client is usually recommended, and that even then, because of ISA bus
>>> limitations, you won't get 100mb. (There weren't many 100mb ISA cards made for just this
>>> reason.) You are correct, that Etherlink IIIs will work, but only at 10mb, although that
>>> can be adequate as others have said. I still have a few 10mb Etherlink IIIs in use.
>>> However, while most switches will drop to 10mb if that's what the NIC speed is, I have
>>> found that with later releases of LTSP the terminals/clients have trouble booting when
>>> connected this way. As such, if I have 10mb cards in my clients, I make it a point to
>>> connect them to a 10mb hub (yes, I still have some of those) which then connects to my
>>> main 100mb switch. Plus, I had to put some special settings, courtesy of Jim McQ, into
>>> /etc/dhcpd.conf (which you have to do anyway with ISA cards). Here's the relevant chunk
>>> from dhcpd.conf:
>>>
>>> host wendolene {
>>> hardware ethernet 00:20:AF:14:DB:0B;
>>> fixed-address 172.26.18.5;
>>> filename "/lts/vmlinuz.ltsp";
>>> option option-128 e4:45:74:68:00:00;
>>> option option-129 "NIC=3c509 MOPTS=nolock,ro,wsize=2048,rsize=2048";
>>> }
>>>
>>> It's the "MOPTS=..." part that is necessary anymore with 10mb clients. HTH
>>>
>>> Petre
>>>
>>> john wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the helpful advice!
>>>>
>>>> Tim, It _seems_ like 3COM Etherlink III's are supported in ISA mode.
>>>> Am I misunderstanding the list of supported hardware. I have managed
>>>> to scare some of those up.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> On 3/15/06, Doug Simpson <veewee77 at alltel.net> wrote:
>>>>> john wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your replies. These machines don't have any PCI slots, and
>>>>> I haven't dug up any ISA based 3COMs or the like yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chuck I don't understand the bootrom socket advice can you explain
>>>>> that to me a bit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/15/06, cliebow at midmaine.com <cliebow at midmaine.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> John: if the card/motherboard has a bootrom socket boot the sucker into
>>>>> knoppix-live ubuntu live..dsl live and get a pci id.
>>>>> if it has a pci slot free you "may" be able to put a bootroomed card in
>>>>> and boot from it..some will boot some wont...chuck
>>>>>
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>>>>> Likely, you can look on that old motherboard and find the chipset for the
>>>>> NIC that is on it and get the number and find native drivers for that
>>>>> chipset. This isan integrated NIC right? Once you find the chipset, you
>>>>> can then go to rom-0-matic and get a bootrom for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug
>>>>>
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