[K12OSN] Firefox crashes

Michael Blinn mblinn at peopleplaces.org
Wed Jun 13 14:35:43 UTC 2007


I was wrong - My 1225 was not picking up the 'videoram' setting in 
lts.conf b/c of a DHCP issue. The 1225 does _not_ crash on the page 
http://www.alp-tschingla.ch

I apologize for the misinformation.

-Michael

Michael Blinn wrote:
> This page also crashes FF running on disklessworkstation.com's LTSP 
> Term 1225e
>
> Running the mozilla debugger options produces this at the point of crash:
>
> The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.
> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
> The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.
>  (Details: serial 145503 error_code 11 request_code 53 minor_code 0)
>  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
>   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
>   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
>   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
>   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() 
> function.)
>
> Program exited with code 01.
>
>
> I don't understand - would this problem really be remedied by having 
> more RAM? My i810 boxes that exhibited the same crash all had more 
> than 64MB memory (One had 384). On the other end of this is the 1225 
> terminal, which has 16MB videoram (specified in lts.conf) and 128MB 
> total.
>
> I can't imagine that this crash is pervasive; no one would be using 
> LTSP if it were. I'm wondering what it is about my specific location 
> (And those whom are also affected) that is causing this to occur so 
> often and repeatably.
>
>
> - Michael Blinn
>
> informatik at steinerschule-basel.ch wrote:
>>> es  könnte auch sein, daß eventuell zwei miteinander unverträgliche 
>>> Speichermodule eingebaut sind.
>>>
>>> Oder das Java Plugin wurde nicht korrekt installiert. Damit das 
>>> plugin funktioniertdarf nur eine Verknüpfung  zum Plugin ins 
>>> Zielverzeichnis kopiert  werden. Wir benutzen bei uns im Celeron 400 
>>> PC auch 128 MB RAM.
>>>
>>> Ich glaube nicht, daß es am RAM liegt.
>> This gives more evidence, that firefox may easily crash a low memory 
>> (64MB) xserver:
>> "The problem may be related to some programs caching things like 
>> bitmaps in the x-server. Can you see a relation to the programs you 
>> are using and the amount of memory X is using?"
>>
>> The example page given below is a good test case because firefox has 
>> to load big image files (e.g. 2592x1944) which are downscaled to 
>> 350x230. - If firefox does cache bitmaps in the X-Server it would 
>> obviously need additional RAM on the LSTP client.
>>
>> On my laptop (not ltsp) Xorg takes another 10 MB RAM when opening 
>> section "Bilder" on alp-tschingla.ch.
>>
>> Christian
>>>
>>> Gruß
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Von: informatik at steinerschule-basel.ch
>>>> An: "Support list for open source software in schools." 
>>>> <k12osn at redhat.com>
>>>> Betreff: Re: [K12OSN] Firefox crashes
>>>> Datum: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:38:35 +0200
>>>
>>>> > I've got zero problems with the page. I'm on firefox 1.5.0.10 
>>>> k12ltsp 6
>>>> > and I did it with both a via and i810 chipset. I didn't see it in
>>>> > previous posts (forgive me if I overlooked it) but
>>>> > how much memory do your clients have? What screen resolution are you
>>>> > running?
>>>> >
>>>> > 800x600 generally needs at least 64mb of ram
>>>> > 1024x768 will need 128mb to browse a variety of javascript and flash
>>>> > sites.
>>>> > My clients had at least 128mb.
>>>> >
>>>> > regards,
>>>> > William
>>>> I can confirm that: k12ltsp 6, firefox 1.5, 1280x1024x15 screen, 
>>>> booted
>>>> from pxe
>>>> (and same behaviour with firefox 2 on k12ltsp 7).
>>>>
>>>> With 64 MB RAM even a page just with images crashes firefox
>>>> (<a 
>>>> href=http://www.alp-tschingla.ch,>http://www.alp-tschingla.ch,</a>open
>>>> section "Bilder").
>>>>
>>>> With 128 MB RAM the same page works.
>>>>
>>>> So maybe the hardware requirements for the clients should be updated
>>>> because nowadays many people use a screen resolution bigger than
>>>> 800x600 pixels.
>>>>
>>>> Christian
>>
>>
>>
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