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Re: [libvirt] [Qemu-devel] QEMU interfaces for image streaming and post-copy block migration

 On 09/12/2010 03:25 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
On 09/12/2010 07:41 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
 On 09/07/2010 05:57 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
I agree that streaming should be generic, like block migration.  The
trivial generic implementation is:

void bdrv_stream(BlockDriverState* bs)
     for (sector = 0; sector<  bdrv_getlength(bs); sector += n) {
         if (!bdrv_is_allocated(bs, sector,&n)) {

Three problems here. First problem is that bdrv_is_allocated is synchronous.

Put the whole thing in a thread.

It doesn't fix anything. You don't want stream to serialize all I/O operations.

Why would it serialize all I/O operations? It's just like another vcpu issuing reads.

The second problem is that streaming makes the most sense when it's the smallest useful piece of work whereas bdrv_is_allocated() may return a very large range.

You could cap it here but you then need to make sure that cap is at least cluster_size to avoid a lot of unnecessary I/O.

That seems like a nice solution. You probably want a multiple of the cluster size to retain efficiency.

What you basically do is:


stream_step_two(offset, length):
   bdrv_aio_readv(offset, length, buffer, stream_step_three)


Isn't there a write() missing somewhere?

And that's exactly what the current code looks like. The only change to the patch that this does is make some of qed's internals be block layer interfaces.

Why do you need find_free_cluster()? That's a physical offset thing. Just write to the same logical offset.


        bdrv_aio_read(offset, stream_2)

        if all zeros:
            increment offset
            if more:
       bdrv_aio_write(offset, stream_3)

        bdrv_aio_write(offset, stream_4)

        increment offset
        if more:

Of course, need to serialize wrt guest writes, which adds a bit more complexity. I'll leave it to you to code the state machine for that.

One of the things Stefan has mentioned is that a lot of the QED code could be reused by other formats. All formats implement things like CoW on their own today but if you exposed interfaces like bdrv_aio_find_free_cluster(), you could actually implement a lot more in the generic block layer.

So, I agree with you in principle that this all should be common code. I think it's a larger effort though.

Not that large I think; and it will make commit async as a side effect.

The QED streaming implementation is 140 LOCs too so you quickly end up adding more code to the block formats to support these new interfaces than it takes to just implement it in the block format.

bdrv_is_allocated() already exists (and is needed for commit), what else is needed? cluster size?

Synchronous implementations are not reusable to implement asynchronous anything.

Surely this is easy to fix, at least for qed.

What we need is thread infrastructure that allows us to convert between the two methods.

But you need the code to be cluster aware too.

Yes, another variable in BlockDriverState.

Third problem is that streaming really requires being able to do zero write detection in a meaningful way. You don't want to always do zero write detection so you need another interface to mark a specific write as a write that should be checked for zeros.

You can do that in bdrv_stream(), above, before the actual write, and call bdrv_unmap() if you detect zeros.

My QED branch now does that FWIW. At the moment, it only detects zero reads to unallocated clusters and writes a special zero cluster marker. However, the detection code is in the generic path so once the fsck() logic is working, we can implement a free list in QED.

In QED, the detection code needs to have a lot of knowledge about cluster boundaries and the format of the device. In principle, this should be common code but it's not for the same reason copy-on-write is not common code today.

Parts of it are: commit.  Of course, that's horribly synchronous.

error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

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