[libvirt] [PATCH 00/17] Redo website layout and branding

[Daniel P. Berrange]

On Fri, Nov 04, 2016 at 12:09:30PM +0100, Martin Kletzander wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 04, 2016 at 10:17:18AM +0100, Peter Krempa wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 12:41:41 +0000, Daniel Berrange wrote:
> > > The current libvirt website design dates from 2008 and
> > > has not changed significantly since. Compared to
> > > contemporary open source project websites it looks
> > > pretty dated and cluttered.
> > 
> > IMO dated is not that bad. Cluttered is the issue perhaps. Said this I
> > don't really like all the "modern" web pages, thus I'm biased.
> > 
> 
> True, you do, but you must also admit that this doesn't do most of the
> bad stuff "modern" pages do.  You definitely know what I'm talking
> about. ;)
> 
> > [...]
> > 
> > > The libvirt logo used a specific font with angled tops
> > > to letters like "l", "b" and "t" - this is the "Overpass"
> > > font, made available by Red Hat under an open source
> > > font license. The re-branding makes use of webfont
> > > support so that we can use this font across the entire
> > > libvirt website for a consistent look.
> > > 
> > > The colors of the website CSS now exactly match the
> > > colors used in the logo in most places.
> > 
> > +1
> > 
> > > The bigger change is in the layout, with the huge
> > > left hand sitemap nav bar being removed to give more
> > > space to the main content. The front page now directly
> > > links to the key pages that were shown to be highly
> > > visited in the apache web logs. Most of the rest of
> > > the links are now available from the "docs.html" page
> > > linked from "Learn" in the top nav bar.
> > 
> > I'm not a fan of this despite having monitors in portrait mode and thus
> > finally having the whole width with content.
> > 
> > What bothers me is that for navigation you can't select a different
> > section without opening the menu page (either by going back, or by
> > clicking on the "learn".
> > 
> 
> This might be an issue, but the bigger one I see in this is that there
> is no place on the front page (or anywhere rather) that says
> "Documentation".  "Learn" is very misleading for me.
> 
> > On the other hand I (and my favorities completion in my browser)
> > remember most of the pages I'm accessing, thus I'm not using the menu
> > anyways usually.
> > 
> > > Another key change is that the download page now
> > > covers all language bindings, test suites, docs
> > > released by the project, not merely the core C
> > > library.
> > > 
> > > Finally a new page "contribute.html" is added as the
> > > source of information useful to people wishing to get
> > > involved in the libvirt project.
> > > 
> > > View the new site here
> > > 
> > > https://berrange.fedorapeople.org/libvirt-new-website/
> > > 
> > > Note that the front page includes a feed of 4 most
> > > recent blog posts, however, if visiting over https://
> > > this will be blocked by browsers. In firefox you
> > > can tell it to allow http:// content temporarily
> > > at which point the feed will appear. I'll be doing
> > > a proper fix by getting a TLS cert for virt-tools.org
> > > website setup.
> > 
> > In this new design all the XML snippets and other stuff enclosed in
> > <code> in the source is not in a monospace font any more, which is
> > terrible.
> > 
> > Additionally I don't quite like sans-serif fonts for big blocks of
> > texts, but the old page was not better in this aspect. I'd be in favor
> > of changing to a serif font.
> > 
> 
> Serif is meant for paper, monitors should show Sans-Serif.  And I'm not
> saying it just because I like it that way, but as it is supposed to be
> like that.  Not all might like it, though.

More specifically, serif is meant for high resolution mediums. So serif
might be practical for Hi-DPI monitors, but not for traditional bad-DPI
monitors that the majority of us suffer with :-(

Regards,
Daniel
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