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Re: [libvirt] [PATCH v2 1/3] storage: Fix existing parent check for vHBA creation
- From: Erik Skultety <eskultet redhat com>
- To: John Ferlan <jferlan redhat com>
- Cc: libvir-list redhat com
- Subject: Re: [libvirt] [PATCH v2 1/3] storage: Fix existing parent check for vHBA creation
- Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:18:46 +0200
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 11:09:00AM -0400, John Ferlan wrote:
> On 07/19/2017 10:21 AM, Erik Skultety wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 09:59:06AM -0400, John Ferlan wrote:
> >> On 07/19/2017 07:38 AM, Erik Skultety wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 11:10:38AM -0400, John Ferlan wrote:
> >>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1472277
> >>>> Commit id '106930aaa' altered the order of checking for an existing
> >>>> vHBA (e.g something created via nodedev-create functionality outside
> >>>> of the storage pool logic) which inadvertantly broke the code to
> >>>> decide whether to alter/force the fchost->managed field to be 'yes'
> >>>> because the storage pool will be managing the created vHBA in order
> >>>> to ensure when the storage pool is destroyed that the vHBA is also
> >>>> destroyed.
> >>> Right, I agree with this - unless the user explicitly states they want the
> >>> pre-created vHBA to be managed, we don't force any setting. I was wondering
> >>> though, what about a use case when the user wants the vHBA to be auto-created,
> >>> but non-managed at the same time...(yeah, I know I'm stretching it a bit with
> >>> these unlikely scenarios, but then, you'd surely agree, you've already seen
> >>> some of similar sort and one can never expect what creative ways of defining
> >>> the XML are there to be found :))
> >> I think you're becoming the new vHBA expert ;-)
> >> In this case, I tell them to go see figure one or go read the docs. From
> >> the storage pool page, managed description: "For configurations that do
> >> not provide an already created vHBA from a 'virsh nodedev-create',
> >> libvirt will set this property to "yes"."
> >>> I was also about to point out in the previous version, that I didn't like how
> >>> complex virNodeDeviceCreateVport was getting - do wwnn and wwpn relate to a
> >>> vHBA at all or is it a regular HBA, does the vHBA exist already or should we
> >>> actually create and manage it.
> >> The wwnn/wwpn are the wwnn/wwpn used to create the vHBA. Typically, a
> >> SAN admin will "assign" the pair (there's some specific rules about
> >> them). If not provided for a storage pool, then it's an XML error. For a
> >> nodedev it's possible to have libvirt generate a wwnn/wwpn, which yes,
> >> is quite confusing. In doing so libvirt uses a specific base and adds to
> >> it (see virRandomGenerateWWN and cover at least one eye).
> >> I agree in general about the "complexity" thing, but as time has gone on
> >> requests for new ways to determine which parent to use has caused code
> >> bloat. Complexity is a time factored calculation. When originally
> >> implemented using "host#" for parent was perfectly fine, but then
> >> someone realized that it should be "scsi_host#". Then someone said, that
> >> "scsi_host#" wasn't good enough because it can change between reboots.
> >> So parent by wwnn/wwpn was added. During the discussions for that
> >> someone else said what about using the fabric_wwn in order to find a
> >> parent. Oh and the "future" holds being able to define multiple vHBA's
> >> because it's felt migration of domains using vHBA pools is going to need
> >> more than one vHBA because on the target host using the same wwnn/wwpn
> >> won't work (although I have doubts here, but haven't had the cycles to
> >> investigate).
> >> If you're interested, go read the tail end of the wiki
> >> (http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/NPIV_in_libvirt) - it'll show a bit of the
> >> history of how things looked at one time.
> >> TBH: Sometimes I think QE reads the code and figures out a way to create
> >> bugs based on assumptions the code makes rather than making sure the
> >> intended use cases "work properly". Hence this whole need to know
> >> whether the parent is the HBA or the vHBA. Why would *anyone* provide
> >> the HBA parent wwnn/wwpn when it's perfectly fine to create a storage
> >> pool of the HBA without it via:
> >> <adapter type='scsi_host' name='scsi_host3'/>
> >> but no, someone wants to be inventive and think/believe:
> >> <adapter type='fc_host' [parent='scsi_host3'] wwnn='HBA_wwnn'
> >> wwpn='HBA_wwpn'/>
> >> should work as well (where HBA_wwnn/wwpn are the wwnn/wwpn of scsi_host3
> >> in this example).
> >> The second XML isn't illegal, but because scsi_host3 has vHBA
> > Well, I'd call it a misconfiguration, how can a device be a parent to itself?
> > That's not what the attribute's supposed to serve and using it this way is a
> > misuse - we should either ignore it in that case or return error. The storage
> > pool won't start but it should never have in the first place and the XML def
> > won't disappear in this case, so IMHO we could and probably should forbid it.
> Because it hasn't really been characterized as a misconfiguration
> previously. I doubt anyone outside of QE has ever done something like
> this as there's no reason to do so. If they want to use the HBA they'd
> use the 'scsi_host' format.
> IMO: something with 'fc_host' what uses the HBA wwnn/wwpn is
> misconfigured because it's not a vHBA then, but there's been no attempt
> to prohibit that configuration, hence the current mess.
> I'd be perfectly fine with turning this particular bz/check into - don't
> configure things this way because it's not how it's supposed to work. If
> you want a storage pool backed to an HBA, then use the scsi_host syntax.
> If you want a vHBA/NPIV then use the fc_host syntax.
After re-reading the docs, I'm quite convinced we should enforce the
configuration, hopefully it would clean up the code significantly.
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