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Re: [libvirt] [RFC 1/3] xml: introduce more config elements for NVDIMM memory





On 11/16/2018 11:35 PM, Zhong, Luyao wrote:

I maybe misunderstand some comments. so sorry for that. I have updated my reply.


On 11/8/2018 5:09 AM, John Ferlan wrote:


On 10/16/18 10:21 PM, Luyao Zhong wrote:
In order to align with QEMU ,four more parameters about NVDIMM will
be introduced into Libvirt xml.

1.alignsize
The 'alignsize' option allows users to specify the proper alignment. When
mmap(2) the backend files, QEMU uses the host page size by default as
the alignment of mapping address. However, some backends may require
alignments different from the pagesize. For example, mmap a device DAX
on NVDIMM maybe 2M-aligned.

2.pmem
The 'pmem' option allows users to specify whether the backend storage of
memory-backend-file is a real persistent memory that can be accessed in
SNIA NVM Programming Model. If the vNVDIMM backend is in host persistent
memory , and 'pmem' is 'on' and QEMU is built with libpmem, qemu will
guarantee the persistence of its own writes to the vNVDIMM backend.

3.persistence
The 'persistence' option allows users to set platform-supported features
about NVDIMM data persistence of a guest. It has two values, 'mem-ctrl'
means the platform supports flushing dirty data from the memory controller to the NVDIMMs in the event of power loss, 'cpu' means The platform supports flushing dirty data from the CPU cache to the NVDIMMs in the event of power
loss, which contains what 'mem-ctrl' means.

4.unarmed
The 'unarmed' option allows users to mark vNVDIMM read-only. Only one type of vNVDIMM backends can guarantee the guest write persistence, which is the device DAX on the real NVDIMM device (e.g., /dev/dax0.0). When using other types of backends, it's suggested to set 'unarmed' option to 'on', so the
guest Linux NVDIMM driver will mark such vNVDIMM device as read-only.


caveat: I didn't research too deeply into each of these options, but
I'll give you some feedback from the aspect of how you should formulate
your patches.

Rather than essentially replicate what was added in formatdomain provide
the examples here and a summary of what the proposed XML would "look
like", e.g.

Since 'alignsize' and 'pmem' seem to be related specifically to memory
mapped files:

   <memory model='nvdimm'>
     <source>
       <path>/tmp/nvdimm</path>
       <alignsize unit='KiB'>2048</alignsize>
       <pmem>on</pmem>
     </source>
     ...
   </memory>

Got it.

The <alignsize> would seem to similar in description to the existing
<pagesize> - although yes for a different model type.....

No, the 'alignsize' is totally another conception.It means our data structure must aligned with a fixed size.

The <pmem> seems to have two states "on" or "off", thus having just
<pmem/> similar to perhaps how nosharepages is handled.

The 'pmem' has nothing to do with the 'nosharepages'. Actually, the 'nvdimm' model can only support 'shared' access mode now. The 'pmem' just tell the QEMU if the backend file is a real persistence memory device, so QEMU will know if itself should guarantee the write persistent.

Ignore the reply above.I will check nosharepages usage first.

Since they're both memory mapped related changes, keep them together
from conf, xml, rng, etc. Then the "next" patch would be to do the qemu
and capability changes. With the last being any virsh changes to allow
modification on the command line (if possible).

Got it.

The "persistence" seems to be less of a <memory> option and more of a
<machine> option, true/false?  It would thus need to be separated from
the others. Still similar to the first one, separate patch for conf,
xml, rng, html... Then patch for qemu...

It really show the platform features, but it's memory-related. So my opinion is keep this along with other options in <source>, which cover all configurations about backend NVDIMM on host.

Sorry for misunderstanding your comment. Thank you very much for point that. It's really a little bit big problem. I think I need redesign this 'persistence' part. My opinion is kicking it out and put it into another patch set.
The "unarmed" is a <target> option since it's being added in patch2
after node and label are processed, so it should be separate from the
<source> and <machine> option patches.  If it's just going to have 2
states, then it doesn't need <unarmed>on</unarmed> - instead it could
just be <unarmed/>.

Got it. My opinion is keep it in <target>, which cover all configurations about guest vNVDIMM.

For more details, see
https://github.com/qemu/qemu/blob/master/docs/nvdimm.txt

Not a commit message worthy...  Place it under the ---...


Signed-off-by: Zhong,Luyao <luyao zhong intel com>
---
  docs/formatdomain.html.in     | 98 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------
  docs/schemas/domaincommon.rng | 31 ++++++++++++--
  2 files changed, 111 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-)


As noted above, but perhaps difficult to determine - the html.in, .rng,
domain_conf, xml2xml tests, etc. should be in one patch.  Then another
patch for the qemu, capabilities, xml2argv tests, etc. in the next
patch. Then if you're going to add virsh options a separate patch for
that (although probably doesn't apply here).

Got it.

After each patch, running make check syntax-check needs to pass.

Got it.

diff --git a/docs/formatdomain.html.in b/docs/formatdomain.html.in
index 8189959..9dec984 100644
--- a/docs/formatdomain.html.in
+++ b/docs/formatdomain.html.in
@@ -8258,6 +8258,8 @@ qemu-kvm -net nic,model=? /dev/null
    &lt;memory model='nvdimm'&gt;
      &lt;source&gt;
        &lt;path&gt;/tmp/nvdimm&lt;/path&gt;
+      &lt;alignsize unit='KiB'&gt;2048&lt;/alignsize&gt;
+      &lt;pmem&gt;on&lt;/pmem&gt;
      &lt;/source&gt;
      &lt;target&gt;
        &lt;size unit='KiB'&gt;524288&lt;/size&gt;
@@ -8265,6 +8267,8 @@ qemu-kvm -net nic,model=? /dev/null
        &lt;label&gt;
          &lt;size unit='KiB'&gt;128&lt;/size&gt;
        &lt;/label&gt;
+      &lt;persistence&gt;cpu&lt;/persistence&gt;
+      &lt;unarmed&gt;on&lt;/unarmed&gt;
      &lt;/target&gt;
    &lt;/memory&gt;
  &lt;/devices&gt;
@@ -8339,10 +8343,38 @@ qemu-kvm -net nic,model=? /dev/null
          </dl>
          <p>
-          For model <code>nvdimm</code> this element is mandatory and has a
-          single child element <code>path</code> that represents a path
-          in the host that backs the nvdimm module in the guest.
+          For model <code>nvdimm</code> this element is mandatory. The
+          mandatory child element <code>path</code> represents a path in
+          the host that backs the nvdimm module in the guest. If
+          <code>nvdimm</code> is provided, then the following optional
+          elements can be provided as well:

You'd need to add a since tags here for the "new" work...e.g.:

<span class='since'>since 4.10.0</span>

Whenever something new is added for a specific version, that's what's
necessary.

Got it.


          </p>
+
+        <dl>
+          <dt><code>alignsize</code></dt>
+          <dd>
+            <p>
+              This element can be used to specify a proper alignment.
+              When mmap(2) the backend files, QEMU uses the host page
+              size by default as the alignment of mapping address. However, +              some backends may require alignments different from the page. +              For example, mmap a device DAX on NVDIMM maybe 2M-aligned.
+            </p>
+          </dd>
+
+          <dt><code>pmem</code></dt>
+          <dd>
+            <p>
+              This element can be used to specify whether the backend storage +              of memory-backend-file is a real persistent memory that can be +              accessed in SNIA NVM Programming Model. If the backend  is a real
                                                                        ^
there's two spaces between backend and is

Got it. It's my mistake.

+              persistence memory and <code>pmem</code> is set to 'on', QEMU will +              guarantee the persistence of its own writes to the vNVDIMM backend, +              but which can work well with libpmem support (QEMU configured with
+              --enable-libpmem).
+            </p>
+          </dd>
+        </dl>
        </dd>

The probably should be reworded in syntax more suitable for libvirt's
usage without including QEMU details.

Got it. I will reword this.

The pmem one in particular may be hard to describe... The fact that it
doesn't work without libpmem does raise a couple of warning flags. I
would just say that if <pmem/> is there, then it's on if it's not, then
it's off. Internally that then isn't a tristate, it just an on/off.

        <dt><code>target</code></dt>
@@ -8361,19 +8393,55 @@ qemu-kvm -net nic,model=? /dev/null
            NUMA nodes configured.
          </p>
          <p>
-          For NVDIMM type devices one can optionally use
-          <code>label</code> and its subelement <code>size</code>
-          to configure the size of namespaces label storage
-          within the NVDIMM module. The <code>size</code> element
-          has usual meaning described
-          <a href="#elementsMemoryAllocation">here</a>.
-          For QEMU domains the following restrictions apply:
+          Besides, the following optional elements can be provided as well for
+          NVDIMM type devices:
          </p>
-        <ol>
-          <li>the minimum label size is 128KiB,</li>
-          <li>the remaining size (total-size - label-size) has to be aligned to
-            4KiB</li>
-        </ol>
+
+        <dl>
+          <dt><code>label</code></dt>
+          <dd>
+            <p>
+              For NVDIMM type devices one can optionally use
+              <code>label</code> and its subelement <code>size</code>
+              to configure the size of namespaces label storage
+              within the NVDIMM module. The <code>size</code> element
+              has usual meaning described
+              <a href="#elementsMemoryAllocation">here</a>.
+              For QEMU domains the following restrictions apply:
+            </p>
+            <ol>
+              <li>the minimum label size is 128KiB,</li>
+              <li>the remaining size (total-size - label-size) will be aligned to
+                4KiB as default.</li>
+            </ol>
+          </dd>
+
+          <dt><code>persistence</code></dt>
+          <dd>
+            <p>
+              The <code>persistence</code> element can be set to "mem-ctl" or "cpu",

"mem-ctrl"

+              which indicate platform-supported features about NVDIMM data persistence. +              'mem-ctrl' means the platform supports flushing dirty data from the memory +              controller to the NVDIMMs in the event of power loss, 'cpu' means The platform

means the platform

+              supports flushing dirty data from the CPU cache to the NVDIMMs in the event
+              of power loss, which contains what 'mem-ctrl' means.
+              ACPI 6.2 Errata A added support for a new Platform Capabilities Structure +              in NFIT, so the guest ACPI NFIT will be filled in according to the persistence
+              option.
+            </p>
+          </dd>

That's a hard read - someone has to know about ACPI 6.2 Errata A and
whatever it is and where to find it?

Sorry, maybe I put too much details here, there is no need to have knowledge about ACPI. I will delete the ACPI things.

Also, I'm not sure this belongs on the NVDIMM line... Allowing it means
more than one could use this and they could use separate values, each
then being placed on the command line and then you don't know what goes
with what.

That is what happens if we have

   <memory model='nvdimm'>
   ...
     <target>
     ...
       <persistence>mem-ctrl</persistence>
     ...
   </memory>
   <memory model='nvdimm'>
   ...
     <target>
     ...
       <persistence>cpu</persistence>
     ...
   </memory>

I have not considered this situation, I need do more tests and find a solution.

+
+          <dt><code>unarmed</code></dt>
+          <dd>
+            <p>
+              The <code>unarmed</code> element can be used to mark vNVDIMM read-only +              through setting unarmed flag in guest NFIT.Currently the only vNVDIMM backend

What is NFIT?

'NVDIMM Firmware Interface Table' defined in ACPI. I will delete this for its hard to understand and not very necessary.

Add a space before Currently

Got it.

+              can guarantee the guest write persistence is device DAX on Linux, so it's

What is DAX?

'DAX' means 'direct access'.

+              suggested to set <code>unarmed</code> to 'on' when using other types of
+              backends.
+            </p>
+          </dd>
+        </dl>

unarmed will be similar to pmem...

Once these are properly separated it'll be easier to review the text in
more detail. But again, like I noted earlier try to use more generic
terms and avoid specifically calling out QEMU. Although that may be
difficult - you have to consider the audience - they just want to know
what the feature does in general and how it will help them or make
things better for them. The details of what we rename it to under the
covers hides the complexity.

        </dd>
      </dl>
diff --git a/docs/schemas/domaincommon.rng b/docs/schemas/domaincommon.rng
index 099a949..cca7869 100644
--- a/docs/schemas/domaincommon.rng
+++ b/docs/schemas/domaincommon.rng
@@ -5353,9 +5353,21 @@
            </interleave>
          </group>
          <group>
-          <element name="path">
-            <ref name="absFilePath"/>
-          </element>
+          <interleave>
+            <element name="path">
+              <ref name="absFilePath"/>
+            </element>
+            <optional>
+              <element name="alignsize">
+                <ref name="scaledInteger"/>
+              </element>
+            </optional>
+            <optional>
+              <element name="pmem">
+                <ref name="virOnOff"/>

Again, I'd follow the nosharepages example here.

See my explain above, NVDIMM model only supports 'shared' access now and the <pmem> has nothing to do with 'nosharepages'.

Ignore the reply above.I will check nosharepages usage first.
+              </element>
+            </optional>
+          </interleave>
          </group>
        </choice>
      </element>
@@ -5379,6 +5391,19 @@
              </element>
            </element>
          </optional>
+        <optional>
+          <element name="persistence">
+            <choice>
+              <value>mem-ctrl</value>
+              <value>cpu</value>
+            </choice>
+          </element>
+        </optional>

While the data is correct, the placement isn't...

+        <optional>
+          <element name="unarmed">
+            <ref name="virOnOff"/>

Similar here to be like nosharepages.

The <unarmed> has nothing to do with 'nosharepages'.

Ignore the reply above.I will check nosharepages usage first.
John
Thanks for your review and so much detailed comments.
Luyao

+          </element>
+        </optional>
        </interleave>
      </element>
    </define>



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