[Linux-cluster] Postfix active/active mail cluster
Gordan Bobic
gordan at bobich.net
Sun Mar 23 14:18:10 UTC 2008
As I said, I wouldn't bother with LVS, but there's no harm in doing so.
It just means you either have to use a fail-over pair of load balancers
in front of your mail cluster, or have each machine in the mail cluster
act as a fail-over load balancer and distribute connections to all the
machines (including itself). It just sounds like an unnecessary
complication.
And the outgoing mail going through a smart-host is a bottleneck on a
properly tuned system - it means that you have multiple machines to
handle incoming mail, but only one to handle outgoing mail. An "equal
peers" solution is far more scaleable.
Gordan
Mehmet CELIK wrote:
>
> Thanx for information. Just, I said be carrefull. My organization is below.
>
> LVS -> 78.189.X.X {25,143}
> MAIL1 -> 78.189.X.X {25,143}
> MAIL2 -> 78.189.X.X {25,143}
> MAIL3 -> 78.189.X.X {25,143}
>
> SMTPGW -> 78.189.Y.Y {All outgoing traffic}
>
> sh $ host -t ptr 78.189.Y.Y
> Y.Y.189.78.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer xxxx.exampledomain.com
>
>
> --
> Mehmet CELIK
> Istanbul/TURKEY
>
>
> > Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 01:33:36 +0000
> > From: gordan at bobich.net
> > To: linux-cluster at redhat.com
> > Subject: Re: [Linux-cluster] Postfix active/active mail cluster
> >
> > Mehmet CELIK wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, of course, you can do this. so, each node on *LVS will respond
> > > active.
> >
> > Not much point - DNS load balancing works just fine for a mail server.
> > Or you can use the cluser resource manager to migrate the IP of a downed
> > node to another node.
> >
> > > But, this is different from storage subject. The IMAP don't be
> > > problem. But, the SMTP can be a problem. Because, you have dynamic
> ip on
> > > the RBL checks. For this, you must use smtp gateway. All outgoing smtp
> > > traffic must be from a single IP.
> >
> > I don't remember anyone saying that dynamic IPs are used. Just because
> > the mail cluster has a different IP for each host doesn't make them
> > dynamic. RBLs that block dynamic IPs largely only block
> > dial-up/broadband dynamic IP ranges, and I don't thing the original
> > poster ever suggested that this is the sort of range the mail cluster
> > he's building will be on.
> >
> > There is no RFC that states that all mail from a domain must come from
> > one IP. Having multi-homed mail servers with multiple IPs is perfectly
> > RFC compliant. Google do it, for example, as do many other mail service
> > providers. The main issue with this is that there are people who use
> > fundamentally broken anti-spam measures like greylisting, which fall
> > over flat on their face when consecutive delivery attempts come from
> > different IPs. Breaking your mail cluster scalability to work around
> > someone's broken mail system is, IMO, not the correct solution.
> >
> > However, as I mentioned in the other post on this thread, if you make
> > the mail spool local rather than shared, then the outgoing mail will not
> > bounce between the nodes - it will remain on the same node until
> > successfully delivered (or bounced). This works around the problem of
> > broken mail systems.
> >
> > Gordan
> >
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