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Re: [Linux-cluster] What is the order of processing a lock request?



Ja S wrote:
> --- Christine Caulfield <ccaulfie redhat com> wrote:
> 
>> Ja S wrote:
>>> --- Christine Caulfield <ccaulfie redhat com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Ja S wrote:
>>>>> --- Christine Caulfield <ccaulfie redhat com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Ja S wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi, All:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When an application on a cluster node A needs
>> to
>>>>>>> access a file on a SAN storage, how DLM
>> process
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> lock request? 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Should DLM firstly determine whether there
>>>> already
>>>>>>> exists a lock resource mapped to the file, by
>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>> the following things in the order 1) looking
>> at
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> master lock resources on the node A, 2)
>>>> searching
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> local copies of lock resources on the node A,
>> 3)
>>>>>>> searching the lock directory on the node A to
>>>> find
>>>>>> out
>>>>>>> whether a master lock resource assosicated
>> with
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> file exists on another node, 4) sending
>> messages
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> other nodes in the cluster for the location of
>>>> the
>>>>>>> master lock resource? 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I ask this question because from some online
>>>>>> articles,
>>>>>>> it seems that DLM will always search the
>>>>>> cluster-wide
>>>>>>> lock directory across the whole cluster first 
>>>> to
>>>>>> find
>>>>>>> the location of the master lock resource. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can anyone kindly confirm the order of
>> processes
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> DLM does?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> This should be very well documented, as it's
>>>> common
>>>>>> amongst DLM
>>>>>> implementations.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I think I may be blind. I have not yet found a
>>>>> document which describes the sequence of
>> processes
>>>> in
>>>>> a precise way. I tried to read the source code
>> but
>>>> I
>>>>> gave up due to lack of comments.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> If a node needs to lock a resource that it
>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> know about then it
>>>>>> hashes the name to get a directory node ID,
>> than
>>>>>> asks that node for the
>>>>>> master node. if there is no master node (the
>>>>>> resource is not active)
>>>>>> then the requesting node is made master
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if the node does know the master, (other locks
>> on
>>>>>> the resource exist)
>>>>>> then it will go straight to that master node.
>>>>> Thanks for the description. 
>>>>>
>>>>> However, one point is still not clear to me is
>> how
>>>> a
>>>>> node can conclude whether it __knows__ the lock
>>>>> resource or not?
>>>> A node knows the resource if it has a local copy.
>>>> It's as simple as that.
>>>>
>>> If the node is a human and has a brain, it can
>>> "immediately" recall that it knows the lock
>> resouce.
>>> However, for a computer program, it does not
>> "know"
>>> anything until it search the target in what it has
>> on
>>> hand.
>>>
>>> Therefore, the point here is the __search__. What
>>> should the node search and in which order, and how
>> it
>>> searches?
>>>
>>> If I missed anything, please kindly point out so
>> that
>>> I can clarify my question as clear as possible.
>>>
>>>
>> I think you're trying to make this more complicated
>> than it is. 
> 
> 
> 
> Maybe, :-), Just want to know what exact happened.
> 
> 
> 
>> As I've
>> said several times now, a node "knows" a resource if
>> there is a local
>> lock on it. That's it! It's not more or less
>> difficult than that, really
>> it isn't! 
> 
> At the same time, there could be 30K local locks on a
> node in our system. How are these local locks stored
> or mapped, in a hash table, or a big but sparse array?
>>From the source code, I guess the local locks are
> stored in a list. Correct me if I am wrong since I
> really have not yet studied the code very carefully.
> 
> 
>> If the node doesn't have a local lock on
>> the resource then it
>> doesn't "know" it and has to ask the directory node
>> where it is
>> mastered. 
> 
> Does it mean even if the node owns the master lock
> resource but it doesn't have a local lock associated
> with the master lock resource, it still needs to ask
> the directory node?
> 
> 
> 
>> (As I'm sure you already know, locks are 
>> known by their lock
>> ID numbers, so there's no "search" involved there
>> either).
> 
> True. When a request on a file has been issued, the
> inode number of file (in hex) will be used to make up
> the name of lock resource (the second number of the
> name). 
> 
> It is true that the node has the list of lock
> resources (either local copy or master copy) as long
> as it has local locks. However, the node can just like
> a teacher, who has a list of students and the students
> are known by their names or student IDs. When the
> teacher want to fill up the final grade for each
> student, he still needs to look at the form and search
> for the student name and put the grade beside the
> name. The search can be done according to the student
> ID if the form is sorted by the student ID or by the
> student surname if the form is sorted by the surname.
> Either way, the teacher still needs to __search__.
> Same thing should be applied to the node. The node may
> use a smart way to search the lock resources kept in
> the list, possibly a hash function (but I doubt there
> is a very good hash function which can find the
> location of the target lock resource immediately). 
> 
> Am I still wrong?
> 
>> There is no "search" for a lock around the cluster,
>> that's what the
>> directory node provides. And as I have already said,
>> that is located by
>> hashing the resource name to yield a node ID.
> 
> Yes, yes, I think I didn't say it clearly. The lock
> resource is located by hashing the resource name to
> yield a node ID. But before hashing, the node still
> needs to perform the search within the list or
> whatever data strucute that keeps the local locks on
> itself to find out whether the target lock resource is
> already in use or "known". Isn't it? I am sorry it
> seems that I am so stubborn.
> 
> Thanks for your patient. You are a really good helper.
> 
> Jas
> 
>> So, if you like, the "search" you seem to be looking
>> for is simply a
>> hash of the resource name. But it's not really a
>> search, and it's only
>> invoked when the node first encounters a resource.
>>
>


hash tables, hash tables, hash tables ;-)


-- 

Chrissie


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