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Re: [Linux-cluster] Did you use GFS with witch technology?



I've also had some issues with VM fencing and multicast and VLANs. 

When configured as:

VM --> switch ---> Dom0, the fencing will operate fine. (You can test by running fence_xvmd -dddd on the dom0 box housing the VM to be fenced and run a fence_node command from a clustered VM. You should see lots of traffic about fence_xvm destroying the domain in question)

Adding a second stop in the middle causes an issue because the TTL of the multicast packet is 1. (You can change the openAIS ttl default, but I never got it to work with the firewall redirects)

VM --> Gateway VM -->Switch --> Dom0 fails. (If you do the same debug above, you'll see no traffic because the multicast never makes it to dom0  and fence_node will report a timeout.)

If you add an extra interface to the VM's and the Dom0's (think eth0.50) you can also get around the multicast TTL issue. It's not preferred security wise in some environments, though. So we went the switch route.

If the switch(es) are configured to pass multicast between interfaces regardless, it will work. I can't remember the Cisco directive at the moment, but I could find it if someone needs it.

What I've done in the past, is run the VM's in VLANs which all work back to the Switch as its default gateway (1 stop) and the switch is config'd to pass those multicast packets to the next switch, etc, then to the dom0 VLAN which drops them off in the right place. This was specifically necessary in one system where we had several layers of separation between the dom0's and the domU's to properly compartment the data that was being processed.

Best of luck!

Henry Robertson


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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:26:14 -0600
From: "Andrew A. Neuschwander" <andrew ntsg umt edu>
Subject: Re: [Linux-cluster] Did you use GFS with witch technology?
To: linux clustering <linux-cluster redhat com>
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The tick divider first showed up in RHEL 5.1. It is a kernel command
line option. Search for 'divider' in the release notes
(http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-5-manual/release-notes/RELEASE-NOTES-U1-x86-en.html).

Multicast works fine for me. I have 4 virtual and 1 physical members in
my gfs cluster. The VMs are split onto two ESX nodes (along with 20+
other VMs). The physical/virtual ethernet switching works fine. But I
did make sure the GFS VMs are using the vmxnet driver, as it has a lower
latency than the other virtual nic driver. My gfs volumes consist of
about 14TB of 4Gbps FC SAN LUNS.

-A
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Andrew A. Neuschwander, RHCE
Systems/Software Engineer
College of Forestry and Conservation
The University of Montana
http://www.ntsg.umt.edu
andrew ntsg umt edu - 406.243.6310


Tiago Cruz wrote:
> Hello Andrew! Many thanks for your reply!
>
> It's very good to see an environment like my!
>
> I'm using RHEL 5.2 with kernel-2.6.18-92.1.22.el5... can you explain a
> little bit around this trick divider?
>
> I'm usually have 2-3 IBM x3850 (16 cores CPU and 128 GB RAM) with 10-15
> virtual machines running under GFS, with a LUN ~500 GB SAN.
>
> My problem happens when Multicast:
>
>       Switch -> GFS -> Switch = OK
>       vSwitch (Box_A) -> Switch-> vSwitch (Box_B) = NOK
>
> Did you have some problem with? If I put all VMs inside the same box
> (vSwitch Box_A -> vSwitch Box_A) I don't have any problem...
>
> Thanks a lot!
>



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