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Re: [linux-lvm] lvm partition on ramdisk



Hi all,
 
I appreciate and will take note of all your suggestions. Thank you for taking the time! Here is how I achieved victory on this, in case anyone else has a similar need. (And it was victory - 98.8% of the speed of a raw device.)
 
I did pvcreate on the full (256MB) ramdisk and the full RAID array, without partitioning. Then I did vgcreate and lvcreate on the ramdisk only (it allowed me only 252MB, which was enough). Then vgextend to add the RAID array, and lvresize to extend the logical volume to the full terabyte. This, as I checked, put the ramdisk at the front of the lv.
 
Because I had created the ramdisk, for efficiency, with ramdisk_blocksize=4096, I had trouble getting my file system to mount. The magic was to make it with
 
mkfs.vfat -S 4096 -I -F 32
 
on the full, unpartitioned lv. Then it mounted, with the entire FAT on ramdisk, and wrote very fast because FAT32 (like DOS) lays down data in order from the start of a disk and does not skip around (I'd be interested if anyone knows any other file systems with that property).
 
Larry
 
On 5/13/08, Karl Wagner <kwagner zetex com> wrote:
If this is what you are looking to do, there are two more approaches you
could consider. I have used both to varying degrees of success.

The first is to just keep the first part of the disk in cache. Ie. Set
up the device as you want, then run the following either as a cron job
or inside a 'while true' loop in the background:
       cat /dev/yourdevice | dd bs=1048576 count=$N of=/dev/null
(replacing $N with the number of MB you want from the beginning of the
drive to remain in the block device cache)
This will simply periodicaly read $N MB from the beginning of your
device, which keeps it in the buffer. I did this on a drive exported
over ATA-over-ethernet to my windows machine as it's boot drive, and had
sub-millisecond access times, very fast boot and app loading times...
Although I was keeping the entire C: drive (6GB) in the buffer on my
home server with 8GB ram :)

The second way I have used (and replaced with the above for simplicity)
is to set up an mdraid1 between the ramdisk and an equally sized
partition, using the write-mostly and write-behind options, then use
dmsetup (or LVM, I went for the direct approach) to concatenate it with
the rest of the disk.

My first way works brilliantly for me, as it is so simple yet so safe. I
have even had a power cut in the past and no data was lost (although of
course it forced windows to do checkdisk on boot, but it would have
anyway).

Hope this is helpful
Mouse

-----Original Message-----
From: linux-lvm-bounces redhat com [mailto:linux-lvm-bounces redhat com]
On Behalf Of Stuart D. Gathman
Sent: 13 May 2008 02:29
To: LVM general discussion and development
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] lvm partition on ramdisk

On Mon, 12 May 2008, Larry Dickson wrote:

> However, let me follow up your (and Stuart's) point. Are you saying
that an
> unmounted LVM volume will mess up the boot, even if the volume in
question
> is not mapped to boot or /? I was proceeding under the assumption that
LVM
> would be happy to sew the pieces together again later, even if the
data in
> them is trashed.

As long as the VG is not needed in initrd (e.g. a test VG), you should
be ok.  You will simply have to go through the procedure of removing the
"failed" PV and adding it back after a reboot.  As long as your root fs
(and /usr and other stuff needed at startup) are not on the test VG, you
should be fine.  The problem is that the VG will not activate
automatically
with a missing PV.  Even with --partial, it will activate the VG
as readonly metadata.  Yes, AIX handles this better, IMO.  But Linux LVM
is
getting there.

For your application, you should make a separate "testvg" VG for your
test
that does not have your system.  At boot, activate the VG with
--partial,
then use "pvcreate -u " to set the UUID on the ramdisk to match the UUID
originally on the ramdisk, followed by vgcfgrestore.

--
             Stuart D. Gathman <stuart bmsi com>
   Business Management Systems Inc.  Phone: 703 591-0911 Fax: 703
591-6154
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