[Patternfly] Pagination - Conceptual Design

Dan Labrecque dlabrecq at redhat.com
Wed Oct 19 16:24:23 UTC 2016


I agree with this needing to be less verbose. When multiple filters are 
applied, the bar will become crowded. Perhaps an icon instead of "select 
all 90 items in this table" would work better?

Dan

On 10/19/16 10:45 AM, Liz Clayton wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 10:07 AM, SJ Cox <sjcox at redhat.com 
> <mailto:sjcox at redhat.com>> wrote:
>
>     Thank you for all the feedback!
>
>     And I agree with option 2 as well.  Catherine, to answer your
>     questions, that bar is always there. That bar is shared to show
>     filters and selection and just updates as filters are added and
>     selection changes.
>
>     This is also the reason that selection is on the right as opposed
>     to the left.  When filters are added, they appear under the filter
>     field, which is on the left. That is another con with this design
>     is that it could potentially run out of room in that bar when a
>     certain amount of filters are added.  In that case should we add
>     another row for filters of just truncate the filters with a ...
>     and then have a way to show all (Which would still add another
>     row, or perhaps a drop down?).
>
>
> Just wondering about the table selection labels themselves. Do we have 
> a standpoint on the language used? They seem more narrative ("Select 
> all 90 items in this table."), versus something less verbose like:
>
> Selection: 18 (of 90) | Select All
>
> Selection: All (90 of 90) | Clear
>
> or something like that... Something more concise might be useful when 
> the applied filters are in view.
>
> Liz C.
>
>
>     Also Matt, item selection should be consistent across all data
>     views so thanks for bringing that to our attention!
>
>     Thank you!
>     SJ
>
>     On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 6:37 AM, Matt Carrano <mcarrano at redhat.com
>     <mailto:mcarrano at redhat.com>> wrote:
>
>         I also like option 2 as I don't see a need to insert a new
>         row.  But I have a similar question to Catherine's.  My
>         expectation is that this Select All action is always there (no
>         need to prompt).  I also think you could shorten this to drop
>         the "in this table" from the end.  So the row would be
>         something like: 18 of 90 Items Selected | _Select All 90 Items
>         _I've done something similar to this in my Storage designs.
>         _
>         _
>         I'm also wondering why this text is on the right rather than
>         the left (I've been putting it on the left).  Looking at the
>         PF library, I notice this is on the left for list view but on
>         the right for table view.  Is that inconsistency intentional?
>
>         Matt
>
>         On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Catherine Robson
>         <crobson at redhat.com <mailto:crobson at redhat.com>> wrote:
>
>             Option 2 makes more sense around having consolidated
>             content about your selections, but when does that bar show
>             up?  Is that bar always there and has 0 out of 90 items
>             selected by default, and then just updates as selections
>             change?
>
>             On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Allie Jacobs
>             <ajacobs at redhat.com <mailto:ajacobs at redhat.com>> wrote:
>
>                 Hey SJ,
>
>                 Great job thinking through the pros and cons. Option 1
>                 seems familiar (gmail) but I think option 2 is more
>                 elegant. It may not be as obvious / familiar but the
>                 select all link is readily available in an area that
>                 makes sense.
>
>                 Allie
>
>                 On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 2:36 PM, SJ Cox
>                 <sjcox at redhat.com <mailto:sjcox at redhat.com>> wrote:
>
>                     Hello fellow PatternFlyers!
>
>                     This sprint I'm working on the conceptual design
>                     for pagination across data tables (includes card
>                     and list view)
>
>                     I wanted to share my thoughts and progress and see
>                     if anyone had any concerns or feedback based on
>                     what is being done with tables in products to
>                     date. What works, what doesn't?
>
>                     With the addition of pagination, all
>                     elements/controls related to pagination would be
>                     found on the bottom of the table.  This includes:
>
>                       * See the number of items on a page and total
>                         number of pages
>                       * See how many pages of data there is.
>                       * View which page you are on (current location)
>                       * Modify how many pages are being displayed.
>                       * Skip to the next or previous page.
>                       * Skip multiple pages.
>                       * Navigate to the first/last page.
>
>                     With this story we wanted to add the ability to
>                     select all items across multiple pages. Initially,
>                     if you select all on a page, it will select all
>                     items only on that page. Then it would prompt the
>                     user to select all items across the table. I came
>                     up with two options for the "select all" option.
>
>                     *OPTION 1*
>
>                     Inline image 2 Inline image 3
>                     The first option above shows a new row appearing
>                     within the table under the row headers, in the
>                     form of a message. This message informs you of how
>                     many items are selected and gives you the ability
>                     to select all.  Once all are selected, you have
>                     the ability to clear selection from the within the
>                     same message.
>
>                     Also, what would happen as you page through the
>                     table? I've seen it behave differently.  In
>                     google, as you page through, the selection is
>                     cleared. In this design I didn't think that would
>                     be a great experience.
>
>                     _Option 1 Pros_:  the addition of the message row
>                     is obvious and will draw the users attention.
>                     _Option 1 Cons:_ Table height would have to adjust
>                     to accommodate new message row. Also, does the
>                     placement of the message make sense under the row
>                     headers? Furthermore, it's redundant to show the
>                     number of items shown twice (upper right, and in
>                     message)
>
>
>                     *OPTION 2*
>                     *
>                     *
>                     Option two addresses the cons of option 1. When
>                     selecting all items within a page, you get
>                     prompted to select all items within the table next
>                     to where it shows you total number of items
>                     selected. Same with clearing selection.
>
>                     Inline image 5
>                     Inline image 6
>
>                     _Option 2 Pros_: No need for creating a new
>                     message row and shifting the table down.  No
>                     redundant info.
>                     _Option 3 Cons_:  Might not be obvious that you
>                     can select all items. Does is seem hidden?
>
>
>                     Let me know your thoughts, thank you!
>
>
>                     -- 
>                     *Sarah Jane Cox*
>                     User Interaction Designer
>                     User Experience Design Team
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